Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer
Sheesh, and that’s at the BEGINNING of the book!
If they AIN'T with us; they’s agin us
First Century Church is Catholic Church in hiding.
What the Protestants seek is not my concern. It is all foolishness, and mostly not done in good faith.
For half its history priests married
No, priests never married. Some married men are admitted into priesthood and some into monastic life. Once one becomes a priest, a monk or a nun, he or she is not free to marry.
So?
They took vows. The vows precluded marriage. They "married" anyway. That is fornication.
The appeal to and intercession of the king’s mom is a record of a cultural practice which is not a sanction of it (nor that of Mt. 14:7), and here the request was refused and resulted in the death of the supplicant that day!
As for Mary now being crowned and reigning with Christ, this directly contradicts Scripture which teaches this rewarding and reigning does not happen until the Lord’s return. (Rev. 11:18; 20:6; 22:12; 1Cor. 3: 8-11; 4:5; 2Tim. 4:1,8)
These and far more attempts are dealt with here: http://peacebyjesus.tripod.com/marysc.html
I share your imagination on that, but I deal with what it posted. What is posted to me regarding Luther's "marriage" is plain stupid. Generally, it varies, and I treat the posters accordingly.
"Elder" could mean anything. Douay uses it when there is a mixed company, for example, of priests and bishops (compare Acts 20:17 and Acts 20:28). The ignorant (or mendacious) author you cite might fantasize about it all day long. Protestants use it thorughout because their religion is based on denying anything suggesting Catholicity.
"πρεσβυτερος" in the Timothys and Titus means catholic priest.
"ιερευς" is, depending on context, Hebrew priest or Catholic priesthood in its derivation from Melchizedek, like in Hebrews. "αρχιερευς" is "Super-priest", Christ in Hebrews and chief Jewish priest otherwise.
"επισκοπος" is, if course bishop, that is a priest who is also overseer of other priests. In the early Church, there were more bishops than priests since churches were geographically dispersed.
No; as exception we know of Mary and Noah. It is also possible that St. John the Baptist lived without sin, since Christ gave him the Holy Spirit while both were not yet born. Of course, in each case it is Christ alone who renders people sinless.
Thank you. Nowhere is the petty and lying nature of Protestantism as evident as in this dispute.
Correct; however both "bishop" and "priest" are derived from their Greek counterparts. For specifics and Greek references see my #409.
words *Catholic church* are not found in Scripture and your interpretation of *Church of God* as meaning the Roman Catholic church is nothing more than your interpretation
Many words with precise meaning are not found in scripture. True Church of God is Catholic because I recognize her catholicity from the Holy Scripture. However, it is Catholic, not necessarily Roman Catholic; it includes the Orthodox and a variety of Catholic Churches with rites other than Roman.
To sneak around to get it on. Most fornication is done deceptively.
Yes, God is completely in control of a Catholic man's life and the life of His Church. If you don't want it, don't consider Catholicism and please stay what you are.
And often they are remarkably consistent; Luther, for example, had nothing to say against polygamy since polygamy is in the Bible (thanks, Narses)
That seems a bit judgemental...
SURE it does...
Exactly. So Luther and his consort were not free to marry. They could, perhaps, seek dispensations and do it legally; they just didn't because they preferred fornication to propriety. This is your teacher: a jerk and a crook.
The Roman Catholic Church allows "annulments", do they not?
Yes -- if the marriage was imporperly conceived, but not in other cases. The Church allows proper dispensation from the monastic vows as well.
In the case of Martin Luther as well as his wife, they BOTH chose to annul their ordination vows and they have every right to do so - they are not slaves.
Luther may have gotten a dispensation from priestly duties but not from celibacy (as Danie11212 explained). His lover have not gotten any "annulment" -- this is why they snuck out in a fish barrel. Liars and crooks.
play judge and jury of a man who died five hundred years ago
He is an historical figure and his life is well researched. I do not judge his eternal damnation, but I can judge his acts. You should do the same.
You do whatever you please. I noticed there are several posts from you. I will respond to those of them that warrant it.
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