The Cult has started a new ad campaign in New York [Where the Mormon tithe & temple fits in]

ExMormonforums.com ^ | Nov. 27, 2012 | Infymus

[Colofornian]

http://www.lds.org/church/news/mormonor ... c?lang=eng

How about being straight up and saying that Mormons put on costumes and chant rituals in secret buildings that only 10% of gross earnings paid as "tithes" allow entrance?

Mormonism wants people to think they are normal that they are just Christians like everyone else. Each year they get rid of more and more of their embarrassing doctrines - or doctrines that aren't politically correct anymore. Apologist attack dogs fight any critics on technicalities.

Mormonism has one thing that works for them - and that is the funneling of cash from members to the Cult coffers. This is done through mandatory tithe. And in order to make this tithe work - and make the member believe in the Cult enough to pay - they have to have the secret temple ceremonies. You have to put a ton of make believe in there.

Stephen R. Donaldson is one of my favorite authors. In one of his series of books he explained how a great and noble group of leaders were slowly corrupted through the centuries by simple infiltration of ideas. The ideas changed the group slowly until they went from helping people to human sacrifices. The new leaders of the group knew what was going on - but they surrounded themselves with those who only had faith - not knowledge. Those who had faith were much stronger because they were driven by the new cult. Those who held faith were much easier to control.

Pondering the story Donaldson had written I saw the same manifested in the Cult of Mormonism. If you have members who are so convinced you are the one and only true Cult, they will not hesitate to open their pocketbooks and hand over everything. Mormonism needs this kind of special, secret, garment wearing, new name, pay lay ale - in order to keep the tithes flowing. If the cat is out of the bag, the tithing will stop.

So the reality is there is a certain point where Mormonism must stop moving towards Christianity - it has to because money is ultimately the top priority of the Cult. Money - Power - Control.

Look at all the recovery boards right now - even the NOM boards. What is the #1 topic right now because of upcoming December? Tithing. Tithing. Tithing. Oh and don't forget tithing. Sign up for tithing settlement. And don't forget to sign up for tithing settlement.

“All of our messaging is focused on helping people understand that Mormons are Christian,”

Naw, Mormonism isn't a Christian church. It's a secretive Cult with very cultish practices and it has to stay that way - or go broke.

[greyfoxx39]

Stop lying about the Bible and Christianity. Simple.

[Elsie]

Your Jesus condemns all Mormons to hell.

Porr, confused little Sandy.

She can't tell the difference between JESUS and her own chosen prophet: Brigham Young.

BY is the one who has DAMNED you!

(Well; not actually him; but YOUR actions have. By not following god given scripture...)

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

[Elsie]

...and deny it in your feelings...

Remember what DU said in #605?

The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.

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Be afraid. Be VERY afraid...

[Elsie]

I also do not appreciate being called a liar ...

There IS a simple fix: quit lying!

[Elsie]

My Jesus is omnipotent...

Is NOT!!

The MORMON 'jesus' cannot atone for the sin of MURDER.

[Saundra Duffy]

Thank you for example of anti Mormon/anti MormonISM dog pile tactics

[Elsie]

I'll bet hardly anyone reads the “block of text” you pasted to the page.

But you assume that folks WILL read YOUR blocks of text??

Sigh...

[Elsie]

“It's never rude to ask once, it's rude to keep asking the same question, once you know the answer.” - My Mom.

It's not if the JURY doesn't know the answer.

Your avoidance of topics that disturb you is noted.

[Elsie]

If you have a prophet, God can alter covenants and tailor revelation to our times (we eat pork too)

Barbequed?

In hot weather?

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#12-13

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THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[greyfoxx39]

The Bible is the word of God, not all the words God has ever spoken, but his words none the less.

Prove it. Sources and links. Not mormon sources.

IMO, this statement of yours is nothing but an apologetic for claims of Smith (first vision) and for the BOM.

[Elsie]

I have a section on my page here you might want to review first :

http://www.freerepublic.com/~delphiuser/#Polygamy

Uh....

It don’t look like that is possible...

[Elsie]

Indeed, many who we call “Christian” today will not be saved at the last day, and that includes Mormon Christians (just to be clear).

AHhh...

OXYmoron of the Year Award!

[Elsie]

Tired of playing defense?

Then go on the attack and see if we'll waste our precious time with your spurious questions. (BY said you non-polys are DAMNED!)

[Elsie]

666

You got it Sandy!

Apt for a person whose GOD has DAMNED them!!!

[svcw]

And thank you for not dealing with the quotes as presented.

I am not anti-mormon, I am anti-mormonISM, I showed you want mormonISM teaches and again you make it about who you think I am rather than addressing what mormonISM teaches and how that differs from what you proclaim.

I’ll ask in a different way, given that mormonISM teaches something different than your proclamations, how do you resolve this differences.

[BlueMoose]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YEoEhckk60

[Elsie]

Sandy is a MORMON Eliza:

http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3

[Elsie]

> Hello, I am Eliza.
* hello
> How are you today.. What would you like to discuss?
* I’ll ask in a different way, given that mormonISM teaches something different than your proclamations, how do you resolve this differences.
> We were discussing you, not me.

[svcw]

So you are not “in love” with Billy Graham any longer, now that he put back mormons to cult status?

[ejonesie22]

Still posting.

What is it you are seeking. It has to be something that cause you to do this to yourself...