Posted on 11/28/2012 6:00:38 PM PST by Colofornian
http://www.lds.org/church/news/mormonor ... c?lang=eng
How about being straight up and saying that Mormons put on costumes and chant rituals in secret buildings that only 10% of gross earnings paid as "tithes" allow entrance?
Mormonism wants people to think they are normal that they are just Christians like everyone else. Each year they get rid of more and more of their embarrassing doctrines - or doctrines that aren't politically correct anymore. Apologist attack dogs fight any critics on technicalities.
Mormonism has one thing that works for them - and that is the funneling of cash from members to the Cult coffers. This is done through mandatory tithe. And in order to make this tithe work - and make the member believe in the Cult enough to pay - they have to have the secret temple ceremonies. You have to put a ton of make believe in there.
Stephen R. Donaldson is one of my favorite authors. In one of his series of books he explained how a great and noble group of leaders were slowly corrupted through the centuries by simple infiltration of ideas. The ideas changed the group slowly until they went from helping people to human sacrifices. The new leaders of the group knew what was going on - but they surrounded themselves with those who only had faith - not knowledge. Those who had faith were much stronger because they were driven by the new cult. Those who held faith were much easier to control.
Pondering the story Donaldson had written I saw the same manifested in the Cult of Mormonism. If you have members who are so convinced you are the one and only true Cult, they will not hesitate to open their pocketbooks and hand over everything. Mormonism needs this kind of special, secret, garment wearing, new name, pay lay ale - in order to keep the tithes flowing. If the cat is out of the bag, the tithing will stop.
So the reality is there is a certain point where Mormonism must stop moving towards Christianity - it has to because money is ultimately the top priority of the Cult. Money - Power - Control.
Look at all the recovery boards right now - even the NOM boards. What is the #1 topic right now because of upcoming December? Tithing. Tithing. Tithing. Oh and don't forget tithing. Sign up for tithing settlement. And don't forget to sign up for tithing settlement.
All of our messaging is focused on helping people understand that Mormons are Christian,
Naw, Mormonism isn't a Christian church. It's a secretive Cult with very cultish practices and it has to stay that way - or go broke.
which MS was used.
2) Forgeries have been proved in the past, and Anti’s ignore the evidence and continue to “trumpet”, why allow it.
3) changes in the Book of Mormon... Understanding textual changes in the Book of Mormon?lang=eng
If the Bible were held to the standard that you hold the Book of Mormon to, it would fare far worse with every edition's differences being added to the total “errors corrected”...
You are correct, greyfoxx. Your Jesus is different from my Jesus. Your Jesus condemns all Mormons to hell. My Jesus accepts us and loves us. He suffered and died to save us from our sins. Your Jesus is small and mean. My Jesus is omnipotent and omnicient, loving and kind. My Jesus Christ died for me on the Cross and He is my personal Savior, Redeemer and Soon-Coming King. I wish you would stop misrepresenting my Best Friend, Jesus Christ, who is also my Advocate with the Father. And yes I believe in the Holy Ghost, too, who ever lives to draw us closer to the Father and the Son.
Jim - Please ban/zot me again. It is very painful to have my Savior misrepresented and degraded on this site day after day after day. I also do not appreciate being called a liar and having my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ called into question time and time again.
Even the Rev. Billy Graham has more love in his heart for Mormons than you guys and he removed Mormons from his ministry’s list of cults.
I am sick of having my Church and my Savior attacked on this site. Furthermore, making fun of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for endless sport is really very telling.
Hating Joseph Smith is one thing - but hating/belittling the Head of my Church - Jesus Christ - is another thing altogether.
Delph
Wasting my time? Perhaps, yet the stronger question is why continue to defend the indefensible? As is pointed towards particularly in the post linked to at The Impossibility of Mormonism Joseph Smith is proven a false prophet.
If you're not interested, just say so.
C “So by your own finger-pointing standard...that's quite rude.”
“It's never rude to ask once, it's rude to keep asking the same question, once you know the answer.” - My Mom.
C “I guess that makes all Lds missionaries “antis” — as in anti-perceived ‘apostate’...referencing those in Christ as corrupt apostates. [Bottom line...they are anti-orthodox Christians]”
Any excuse to “go there”, LOL.
I'll agree only if you agree that any church that has any member that has ever asked another Christian if they were interested in learning about their church is also anti Christian... Crickets...
D “Generally speaking, a quick review of someones posting history will tell you if they are an anti or not.”
C “Well, we don't have the luxury of being able to check how often an Lds missionary has used the phrasing of “apostasy” and “restoration.”
LOL so why not add the members of any church for that matter, I think Luther would have had a pretty high count in his day, and IMHO, He's a Christan too.
C “But knowing how commonly it's used (see post #322 for details), that indeed makes Lds missionaries out to be “anti-Christian” ... they are against us within the Christian sects...”
Sigh, poor Johnny one note, you should look him up some time.
Delph
When asked for comment after Mormons was placed back on the list as a cult, a spokesman for Graham said, Look, we took it off the list before. It was close to the election. We were kind of pressed for time. We didnt get a chance to really look at Mormonism. But once we started reading
Oh my goodness! That is some crazy stuff! Oh sure, an angel came by and showed you some stuff in a language that only you could understand! What a racket! Jesus was a real man. Mary had sex. You can be a god, too. Planet Kolob! I couldnt think of anything crazier than that if I tried.
The covenant with Moses was everlasting because that is one of God's names. It didn't last forever, Jesus fulfilled it.
If you have a prophet, God can alter covenants and tailor revelation to our times (we eat pork too)
They are the ones who claim that they can't be wrong, not me.
Delph
NOW banned for being obnoxious, well...
Again trouble with reality...
The LDS Church News reported: "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak." (June 20, 1998)
Please Sandy!
Don't post something stupid and hateful like the last time; for we NEED to here to serve as a shinging example of what a MORMON ought to be!!
--MormonDube(You KNOW I've got yer back!)
Since I already answered this stuff ages ago, I have a section on my page here you might want to review first :http://www.freerepublic.com/~delphiuser/#Polygamy
Delph
Polytheism and such have no place in discussions of Christ.
Your indignation and haughty viticmhood are self inflicted.
The evidence in in the fact you keep posting here when it is simple to walk away, no ZOT needed, just never type this URL again, delete all sort cuts and done.
Some deep seeded desire must be getting fulfilled.
I smell brimstone in the morning,
I smell brimstone in the night;
I smell brimstone in the summer when it sizzles
I smell brimstone in the winter when it drizzles
Polytheism and such have no place in discussions of Christ.
Your indignation and haughty viticmhood are self inflicted.
The evidence in in the fact you keep posting here when it is simple to walk away, no ZOT needed, just never type this URL again, delete all sort cuts and done.
Some deep seeded desire must be getting fulfilled.
But men DO see that you are FAILING to follow your own 'scripture' and even your own PROPHET has said you'll be DAMNED for it.
You people are to be most pitied...
There is no guarantee that being called a Christian means you will be saved, period.
Indeed, many who we call “Christian” today will not be saved at the last day, and that includes Mormon Christians (just to be clear).
Delph
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