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To: trebb

If a baby dies in child birth does it spend eternity in heaven a tiny thing unable to do anything for itself?


60 posted on 11/27/2012 11:13:49 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
If a baby dies in child birth does it spend eternity in heaven a tiny thing unable to do anything for itself?

??? Need more data to respond. How would you consider a baby, "helpless" in Heaven? That flies in the face of us (our souls) donning new and perfect bodies. Can any man know such things? We have to trust that what God has in store will not be an eternal impediment.

Was this a reference to my not believing in Purgatory? If so, who knows? I was raised Catholic and have heard all sorts of "reasoning" behind why there is supposed to be a Purgatory. Catholics seem to believe that, if a person did not accept Christ as the Savior, they get a second chance to be purged of their sins, but I'm not aware of any Biblical references other than some folks interpretations to indicate a second chance. The only ones that seem to carry any water are those of the Old Testament when nobody could really be worthy because of the human inability to abide by ALL parts of ALL the Commandments that humans asked for. Even David, who sinned greatly against Uriah, was said to have been purified by God so he died sinless. The Prophet Jeremiah told us of the coming New Covenant where God would forgive our wickedness and recognize our sins no more. If this is the case, what purpose would a temporary place of cleansing serve? I also do not understand why folks would pray to the saints and the Virgin Mary for intercession - why pray to dead mortals when we have been given a direct path via Christ's relationship on a human level?

Please understand that I have my beliefs because I was saved when I first really heard and understood the love of Jesus in a non-denominational church which uses the Bible as the Word and doesn't get into all the "intricacies" of religion, which tends to cause more confusion than clarification. I don't deny the positive role religion has played, but do not believe that religion is the answer - it's a way for men to become more important/integral to what God has in store for us. I don't have that much faith in men. I don't believe we need priests or other "experts" to understand the love and sacrifice that opened the gates of Heaven to all who would only repent of their sins and accept Christ as their Lord and Savior. Else, why did Christ have to die? I know I don't know it all and welcome any discourse that may clarify your own beliefs so I have new data to work through.

70 posted on 11/27/2012 11:59:48 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: central_va

I think we will be the age of 33, the same age when Jesus suffered, died, and rose from the dead.


72 posted on 11/27/2012 12:01:58 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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