Posted on 10/17/2012 4:33:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
The daughter of a Latter Day Saints bishop and author of a book on Mitt Romney’s Mormonism says that she has concerns about a Romney presidency.
Tricia Erickson, who is now a professing Christian after being involved in the LDS establishment for 21 years, stated in an article this week entitled The Obamney Twins that while she cannot support Barack Obama, she is unable to vote for Mitt Romney either.
“To me, as a conservative, a Republican and a Christian, I cannot justify a vote for either one of the Obamney baby-killing, annihilators of the family, government healthcare mandated to take over our economy socialist evil twins – and be right with our Creator,” she wrote.
Erickson pointed out that neither seek to ban abortion, and both have shown support for homosexuality.
“Republicans say that they have to vote for Romney because we are losing our country to socialism and after another four years of Obama, there will be nothing left of America. I can’t say that I disagree,” she said. “However, what is never talked about is that Romney has his own goals for the Mormon Church [and] The Mormon Plan for America, and while he is cunning and a good debater, he lacks the judgment to discern that he will not become a ‘god’ in his next life and receive his own planet.”
Erickson has been making the rounds on various talk shows and has been featured in news publications for at least the past year, discussing her concerns with Mormonism and a potential Romney presidency.
“While he attempts to portray Mormonism as just another Christian religion, Mitt Romney counts on his skills to shift our attention away from what he truly believes,” she wrote in her book Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters? The Mormon Church Versus the Office of the Presidency of the United States of America.
“It’s like our eyes are glazed over when it comes to the religion of Mitt Romney,” Erickson told talk show host Thomas Hartmann in further discussing the matter. “If you just knew what Mitt Romney believed, you would run far away from this candidate.”
Erickson states that she grew up in a devout Mormon household, and was even married in the LDS temple according to mandated rituals. However, she laments many things that she observed and was subjected to.
“It was horrific,” she told WND. “There I was standing naked [at my wedding]. They brought this bowl of water and started washing my body down, and whispering prayers over my body. They stopped over the right and left breast, the navel and knees and prayed specific prayers.”
Erickson stated that because Mitt Romney is a dedicated Mormon, he espouses beliefs that are very concerning, including that Jesus was not born of a virgin, that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers, and that Romney will one day become one of many deities.
“Mitt Romney truly, unequivocally believes that when he dies, he is going to become a god in Heaven,” she said. “He is going be given his own kingdom/planet. He will be able to call his wife Ann by the secret name that is only given to him in the Mormon secret ceremonies … When he calls her on to his planet, they will have relations to populate the planet with spirit children, as they believe our God has a wife on His planet, and He did the same, and they believe that we are our God’s spirit children from our god mother and god father.”
“So, all of us here on earth, we existed in a pre-existence with God as a spirit baby, then we came down and inhabited these little babies’ bodies that are here on the earth,” Erickson continued, explaining LDS beliefs. “[This was done] so that we could go through our process to venture into godhood.”
She said that there has been a longstanding agenda in the LDS establishment to place Mormons into governmental offices.
“[The LDS establishment has] been trying since the beginning to get someone in the presidency, because they believe they have to establish their authority so when Jesus comes to earth, the Mormon Church will take control of the government and the Mormons will be the government of God on earth,” Erickson explained.
“They believe that when Jesus comes back to earth in the millennium, that He’s going to come to Jackson County, Missouri, which that’s where they believe the Garden of Eden is,” she added.
Former Mormons Dennis and Rauni Higley of H.I.S. Ministries International in Salt Lake City, Utah concur that these indeed are the beliefs of the LDS establishment. They provided Christian News Network with written outlines of their concerns surrounding what is called the “White Horse Prophesy.”
“From its very beginning, the Mormon plan for America has been to have a Mormon president lead this nation and ultimately the world,” they stated. “The so-called ‘White Horse Prophecy’ of Joseph Smith has been referred to often as a destiny of the Mormon priesthood in saving the United States. This ‘prophecy’ predicts that U.S. government will one day hang as if by a single thread and Mormon elders will step in and save it.”
Erickson said that in Mormon ceremonies, participants must swear to keep secret what goes on behind closed doors. She advised that in rituals that she was involved with, she observed people being forced to make gestures signifying their death if they revealed what takes place.
“They actually had us [symbolically] slashing our guts open and our guts falling to the ground if we told people of the secret dogma of the ceremonies,” she stated.
When asked how Erickson knows that Romney espouses these same beliefs, she replied that Romney has long had high ranking in the LDS establishment, holding office as bishop like her father, and working as a Mormon missionary in France for a time.
“You cannot get more Mormon than Mitt Romney,” she stated. “And I have been through the same temple ceremonies … to follow the church first before anything else.”
“To my way of thinking the idiosyncrasies of Mormon belief and practice are not the issue; Catholic belief in transubstantiation and Protestant belief in the resurrection [of Jesus] can be made to look silly, too,” Romney told CNN last year after being informed of Erickson’s writings and speeches against him.
Because of these concerns, in Erickson’s article this week, she noted that many will vote third party this year or skip the presidential race on the ballot.
“Some have said that they will simply not vote for either establishment candidate, [but] instead, in protest, will write-in another name or candidate if they will vote at all,” she wrote. “I, and approximately 90 million Americans, agree with Charles Spurgeon who says, ‘Of two evils, choose neither.’”
I would like to know more about Ronna Romney’s divorce from Scott Romney. Is she still a Mormon? What was the cause of the divorce, especially after she wrote a book “Giving Time a Chance: The Secret of a Lasting Marriage”?
How does the election of OBAMA again have anything to do with men’s souls?
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Obama has not done anything to my soul, what has happened to yours in the last 4 years?
Voting for Goode is not even a consideration for me not on our ballot.
Explain how these are pro-abortion.
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life. (Oct 2003)
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
Voted YES on funding for health providers who don’t provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)
Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)
Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
No federal funding of abortion, but no litmus test. (Dec 2000)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 100% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-life stance. (Dec 2006)
Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)
Grant the pre-born equal protection under 14th Amendment. (Jan 2007)
Where did you get this idea? Before he switched parties, Virgil Goode was one of the few prominent pro-life Democrats. If abortion is your major concern, why are you so enthusiastic about Romney? He certainly didn't act as a pro-life governor and if you're familar with his political career, you'd know not to put any trust in his public pronouncements. There is a good reason why Romney has a reputation of being a flip-flopper.
BTW, it's Goode, with an "e".
Where did you get this idea? Before he switched parties, Virgil Goode was one of the few prominent pro-life Democrats. If abortion is your major concern, why are you so enthusiastic about Romney? He certainly didn't act as a pro-life governor and if you're familar with his political career, you'd know not to put any trust in his public pronouncements. There is a good reason why Romney has a reputation of being a flip-flopper.
BTW, it's Goode, with an "e".
I feel safer with him than Mohammed.
Why don’t you go over to DU where they will appreciate your BS.
Nice to know you are so “tolerant” about diverse religious expressions /sarc
Oh, but a vote for Romney is a "vote" of sorts for the Mormon "prophet."
Romney has ALREADY consecrated ALL he has to "Zion" in a Mormon temple vow he took.
Numerous lds "prophets" have claimed that Lds need to follow all that the Lds "prophet" tells them to do; and that this pertains to temporal matters and political matters as well.
Whatever the Lds "prophet" wants, Romney is to honor that.
Well then, looks like you presented your case for voting nobama or is that some ronpaul retread we’re smelling?
Will now vote for Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party
If I was not to vote for those with heretical theology, I’d have to sit out a lot of elections.
Sooooo.... what is the Representative from Mars advising his paulbots to do? Vote nobama and hope the liberals don’t snuff us all leaving the paulbots to pick up the pieces?
So the gay porno film thing of Goode's is ok with you?
And the indo-kenyan in the Whiteyhut appreciates your vote.
Whatever the Lds “prophet” wants, Romney is to honor that.
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How many specific examples from any Mormon politician in the last 50 years do you have of politicians doing the bidding of Mormon prophets?
Specific and documented instances only please.
Sure:
#1: Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights and: Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws
In the above case, the Mormon church carved out a "new position" on homosexual rights; and there's no way that the Mormon Salt Lake City Council members would have voted the way they did had there NOT been a "new position" taken by the church.
#2: It's no happenstance that the latest version of Romney's "all over the map" position on abortion is quite similar to the official Lds church position...Beliefs of the LDS Church concerning abortion
Romney told CBS Aug. 27, 2012 that likewise his position includes most of the same "exceptions" as his church...incest, rape, life of the mother, and "health" of the mother.
Beyond that, I'm not claiming that Lds "prophets" are busily directing all Lds dogcatchers everywhere what to do on the job...And even if they were, most of what that could entail wouldn't be too relevant to us, now would it?...(Might be more relevant to Mitt, who places his dog on top of his station wagons and heads off on vacations cross-country that way)...
Tis simple when we're talking 'bout comparing the White House to a state house or city council: The temptation to control, puppet-wise, is commensurate with the sheer level of potential influence at hand.
So yet another dimensional answer to your challenge is this: How many Lds presidents have there been? (Just as their are no previous Lds presidents, the level of Lds control out of SLC would be unprecedented as well)
There, frankly, is NO comparison between what a POTUS can do as THE leader of the free world -- vs. what some Congressman or state-house leader can do.
As if we have people out there concerned about "comprehensive theological alignment" 'tween candidates & voters...
Show me who...where...
#1...We're talking about a key character issue for THE leader of the free world vs. ...say...by contrast...your local dog-catcher...
With your local dog-catcher, you can afford to have one who is gullible/vulnerable to deception. With THE leader of the free world, sorry...standards need to be a wee bit higher...(Even with Mitt, if he was the local dog-catcher, he didn't show much discernment putting a dog on top of his car for a cross-country vacation trip)
Discernment is a key character trait.
#2...Allow me to also highlight a difference of "identity" discernment ... weighing a temple Mormon (like Romney) ... who are 15-20% of the Lds population...vs. a non-temple Mormon like most Mormons.
A non-temple Mormon has NO CHANCE of becoming a "god." He doesn't presume to "ID" himself as "divine."
Romney has a basic arrogant identity disorder as somebody who thinks he's a "god in embryo."
You don't have to weigh a given candidate's comprehensive theology; if they think they're divine, that alone is a pretty good indicator that they have MAJOR basic discernment issues.
Finally, most candidates of any given political race don't go 'round and try to alienate their base by referencing them as apostates; as "corrupt" professors of what they believe; and as people who embrace 100% abominable creeds.
Well, Lds "scriptures" teach that; so unless a given Lds candidate has tossed the Pearl of Great Price mormon "scripture" under the bus, 'tis not very inspirational to the "base" that candidate is appealing to re: hearing that Candidate A thinks they are "corrupt"...and that 100% of their faith creeds are putrid (abomination).
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Why stop there.. We should be theocracy right??
Major part of the article is about theology. And isn't your whole opposition ultimately grounded in his theology?
Mormon theology is heretical to the Church. So are a lot of protestant's theology, perhaps even yours. I could question their discernment as well.
Study 'theosis' in the Eastern Orthodox Church. You likely would think it heretical to your beliefs. It's not to mine. And on and on.
I wish Mitt was a member of the Church. At least his running mate is. Romney is a good and decent and moral man. He's a competent and accomplished leader. He believes in the free enterprise system and American exceptionalism. These are the kinds of traits I look for in a president. He could even be a Calvinist, heaven forbid, and I'd still support him.
But, most important, Romney is the only man who can remove this regime from power. I'll enthusiastically support him - and live with his heretical theology.
I think acting in ways that help Obama stay in power, such as voting third party, is heading towards the low ground, morally and on principle.
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