Posted on 09/24/2012 8:09:36 AM PDT by Cronos
British author Salman Rushdie, who lived in hiding for nine years under a death sentence from Iran's supreme leader, said in an interview published last Thursday that something had gone wrong at the heart of Islam.
Rushdie told Le Monde newspaper that his years fleeing the 1989 fatwa from Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini had forced him to pay close attention to a radicalization of the Muslim world.
"Something has gone wrong at the heart of Islam. It is quite recent. I remember when I was young, many cities in the Muslim world were cosmopolitan cities with a lot of culture," he said in an interview published in French.
"For me, it is a tragedy that this culture has regressed to this point, like a self-inflicted wound. The Islam in which I grew up was open, influenced by Sufism and Hinduism, and not like the one which is spreading rapidly at the moment."
.."There is a limit beyond which you cannot blame the West any more," Rushdie told Le Monde. "Having said that, if there was the slightest sign that Muslim society was able to create an open democracy, I would change my opinion."
Last week an Iranian religious foundation increased its reward for the killing of Rushdie, in response to the film mocking Muhammad.
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THEY are the root of the current Islamic radicalism -- they have spread Wahabiism/Salafiism to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia etc. etc.
Yeah, its full of muslims.
Ok - Ever wonder why there is no Saint Muhammad?
There are only a few possibilities, among them:
- The Church thinks Muhammad just made up all that stuff about a visit from an angel. There was no supernatural event. (The Koran is a book based on lies according to the Church.)
- The supernatural event happened, but it was not a visit from God or any of his angels. It was demonic, according to the official church inquiry. (The Koran was demonically inspired, according to the Church.)
- The Church never investigated or came to a conclusion about Muhammad and his claims of supernatural visitation and inspiration.
Any other possibilities to support a lack of sainthood for Muhammad?
1John!
Gone wrong? Quite Recently? Gonna ignore history now,eh? What’s ‘wrong’ is the Koran. It is the blueprint for all the violence terrorism and death that Islam is. Modern communication makes it possible for more Muslims than ever to be taught the Koran and encouraged to follow it more precisely than ever before. What we are seeing now IS exact OBEDIENCE to the ‘holy’ tenets of Islam, not the reverse.
You worship a meteorite and rabid pedophiles from the 6th century and want civilization? Rushdie is trying to romanticize what Islam has always been- a warring, hate driven death cult. No sympathy-just eradication.
Maybe because Mohammed rejected Christianity, wholly?
“Rushdie is trying to romanticize what Islam has always been- a warring, hate driven death cult.”
Sounds just like many US multinationals and the fed gov.
Full of inbred moose limbs.
That’s why they want different women so the group IQ jumps to 45.
Not to argue with you...
But don’t Muslims claim that Allah is the same as Yahweh?
(or is that just the spin?)
In the absence of an Ecumenical Council called to combat the ‘Mohammedan Heresy,’ it’s safe to say Islam has always been regarded as wholly outside the faith.
His name is : SATAN, LUCIFER, SON OF PERDITION, .....there are more if you need them...
...I'm just guessing here......but could it begin with the establishment of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt sometime around 1929....
Just look at where Islam came from
“The Prophet” went up to a mountain where an ‘angel’ squeezed a steaming pile of Koran out of him
I am NOT making this up
Wahabbists have beed doing everything in their power to fundamentalize Islam for decades much of it funded by western oil money indirectly and the west has sat idly by and let this cancer take over and destroy the Arab world, which was never all that stable to begin with.
I think Cronos is correct when he indicates that what has changed within Islam over the last few decades, is the product of Saudi funding for radical Islamic madrassahs (Islamic seminaries), training increasing numbers of radical Islamists. The rise of radical Islam tracks quite well with children trained in radical madrassahs in the 1970’s and 1980’s, growing up and becoming radical clerics and activists throughout the Muslim world and Europe.
Muslims reject the cross, ie, they reject the crucifixion of Jesus. They claim it never happened.
One *cannot* be a Christian while denying the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus.
What’s likely changed is that, in his youth, the leaders of the Arab world (and much of its people) paid lip service to Islam, but no one took it really seriously. Through the mid 60s, they still wanted to emulate the West. A lot changed with the stunning Israeli victory in the Six Day War. The Arab Street suddenly saw that their Leaders counldn’t deliver on their promises and started looking elsewhere for solutions. That elsewhere turned out to be the local mosque and with radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood. That was also about the time that the West started to get weak kneed and apologetic about its cultural dominance.
The combination of Secular Arab failure and Western weakness turned out to be a golden opportunity for the radical Islamists. Not that they can fix any of these problems, but they sure can fire up their base.
“But don’t Muslims claim that Allah is the same as Yahweh?”
OK, I’m not too good on the Bible (and certainly not Islam), so if I make a mistake, someone will correct me.
I read years ago in, I think, Time magazine about the scriptural history of Islam. It was after 9/11 when everyone was like: HEY, WHAT’S THIS ISLAM STUFF WITH THESE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL US?!??!?!
Anyway, it said that, per the Koran, the of the two brothers in the Bible (Jacob & Essau? I think) that the father had to chose between, Essau was the “founder” of the Arab people. And that actually the father had chosen him, rather than the brother.
SO, they do see Allah as the same as who we call Jehovah, but they also see themselves as very cousins of the Hebrews. Now, I think it is pretty clear that ethnic-ly these groups ARE cousins, so I guess that is right.
Anyway, that’s all I know and I may have mangled it a good deal. Like I said, I’m pretty ignorant about the Bible and I forget what happens to those 2 brothers.
I have also heard that there is a lot in the Koran about Jesus and a super-lot about Mary his mother. Is any of that considered accurate by non-Muslims, I have no idea.
Despite the fact that they keep killing Christians and Jews, Muslims see themselves as related to those groups the way they are not related to, say, Hindus. But of course, I think in India there is probably a lot of cultural things in common between Hindus & Muslims.
Nevermind...(Internet forums are not a place for making the type of indirect point I was going for.)
Have a nice day.
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