Posted on 09/10/2012 6:58:49 PM PDT by NorthernCrunchyCon
By the way, you’re VERY transparent. You should have made more of an effort to establish your bona fides here.
Actually, since you raise the issue, Romney has a very interesting historical connection to the massacre. Mormons carried out the massacre out of vengeance for the killing of Parley Pratt - of whom both Romney and Jon Huntsman are direct descendents and cousins.
Pratt was killed by the angry husband of a woman that Pratt had seduced and engaged in an adulterous affair with under the guise of “plural marriage” and Pratt’s close connection with Joseph Smith Jr. Pratt had convinced her to run off with him and, if I recall correctly, take the man’s children with her.
If I recall correctly, your mom had an affinity with the sailors of the 7th fleet.
Or maybe I was mistaken.
“I think I’ll work a little harder to elect conservatives and Republicans in November’s election in your honor.”
Cool! But don’t do it for me. Do it for the country and future generations.
I’m supporting several conservatives locally who running under the GOP. But I refuse to support RINOs any longer.
That whole Kansas-Missouri border war, which started before the Civil War and got really blood-drenched during the Civil War, saw hundreds and hundreds of non-combatant people killed in savage guerilla attacks on towns and outposts.
Quantrill was certainly one of the more prolific killers at that time and place..
My mom was a stay-at-home mother who never took a penny from the state. You’ve just insulted her. Obviously you’re a democrat.
“.....I’m supporting several conservatives locally who running under the GOP......”
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Since your postings give absolutely no evidence of that, I choose not to believe this little proclamation.
Obviously you’re dense.
You’re stretching the envelope on Romney/Meadow mountain and I was just pointing that out.
I’m sure your mom is a wonderful woman. You, however, didn’t make the cut.
Go back to snake twisting.
“.....But I refuse to support RINOs any longer.”
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Any longer? I’ve searched your posting history and find no evidence that you’ve ever supported RINOs—or ANY Republicans (conservative or not) for that matter. So pardon me for my total disbelief. “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”
How about some research and posts on the massacres by odingo’s relatives in kenya?
Or are you just on an anti-Mormon Jihad?
That’s not an argument I can engage. Only you would know what you believe.
Having said that, what is it about the Mountain Meadow Massacre and the desecration of the final resting place of its Christian victims that makes you uncomfortable?
The creibility went right out the window with the statement “Apart from the Oklahoma City bombing, this was the single largest act of domestic white-on-white violence in the history of the U.S.,” .
Was the War of Northern Aggression just a figment of our imagination???
The logic of this and other anti-Mormon threads is simply this: Mormons were not perfect in the 19th century. Therefore vote Obama, and subject America to four more years of Marxist adventurism and possible economic collapse.
In other words, there is no logic.
Not sure what any of this has to do with Romney vs. Obama, but anyway...
No. Don’t vote for Obama. I would think it obvious after four years that he is just as bad as Romney. And even if this was not the case, Obama’s fanatical support for pre-natal infanticide (including of the partial birth variety) makes him anathema to any decent conservative voter. (Although not Rockefeller Republicans like Mitt’s mother.)
The best course of action is to support conservatives downticket.
There have been numerous recent attempts to place a cross on the Mountain Meadows Massacre victims’ monument. The cross gets torn down every single time.
What is it about Mormons & the cross?
No, I don’t think Mitt Romney’s LDS faith will be the basis for the Dems’ expected October Surprise. The 1857 massacre is a separate & living issue from that day to this.
There are mostly plain everyday Mormons like Mitt and there are the Nazi Mormons of the Intermountain Corridor stretching from Utah to Idaho. These are the cross desecrators.
Why Mormonism Is Not Christian
by Leonard C. Albert
http://www.laityalive.wordpress.com/
3/07/2012
... The biblical teaching on blood atonement is that the shedding of blood is required for forgiveness of sin (Hebrews 9:22). The Bible teaches that the blood of Christ cleanses from "all sin" (1 John 1:7). Early Mormon theology, however, teaches that for certain sins the blood of Christ alone does not avail and the person's own blood must be shed for atonement. Under the section, "Blood Atonement," of the book, Mormon Doctrine, LDS Apostle Bruce R. McConkie wrote, "… there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must then have their own blood shed to atone for their sins." The 10th Mormon prophet, Joseph Fielding Smith, in Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. I, page 135 says, "Joseph Smith taught that there were certain sins so grievous that man may commit, that they will place the transgression beyond the power of atonement of Christ. If these offenses are committed, then the blood of Christ will not cleanse them from their sins even though they repent. Therefore, their only hope is to have their own blood shed to atone as far as possible in their behalf." Think back to Gary Gilmore executed by a firing squad in 1977 at Utah State Prison in Draper. Think back to John Albert Taylor executed in Utah in 1996 and Ronnie Lee Gardner executed in Utah in 2010 - all by firing squads. The prevailing belief is that in its early history, Utah used a firing squad because it allows 1 to "shed his own blood." ...
Frankly, in the larger scheme of things, nobody gives a rat’s ass.
Yes, a very good movie:
What makes me uncomfortable you ask? Annoyed is a more apt description. Annoyed at the presence of transparent trolls here. The following from post 34 above pretty well captures it:
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The logic of this and other anti-Mormon threads is simply this: Mormons were not perfect in the 19th century. Therefore vote Obama, and subject America to four more years of Marxist adventurism and possible economic collapse.
In other words, there is no logic.
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