“The Holy Spirit is always efficacaious”....
Well, lets look at some of the jobs of the HS.
Access to God - Eph. 2:18 Inspires prayer - Eph. 6:18; Jude 20
Anoints for Service - Luke 4:18 Intercedes -Rom. 8:26
Assures - Rom. 8:15-16; Gal. 4:6 Interprets Scripture - 1 Cor. 2:1,14;
Eph. 1:17
Authors Scripture - 2 Pet. 1:20-21 Leads - Rom. 8:14
Baptizes - John 1:23-34; 1 Cor. 12:13-14 Liberates - Rom. 8:2
Believers Born of - John 3:3-6 Molds Character - Gal. 5:22-23
Calls and Commissions - Acts 13:24; 20:28 Produces fruit - Gal. 5:22-23
Cleanses - 1 Thess. 3:13; 1 Pet. 1:2 Empowers Believers - Luke 24:49
Convicts of sin - John 16:9,14 Raises from the dead - Rom. 8:11
Creates - Gen. 1:2; Job 33:4 Regenerates - Titus 3:5
Empowers - 1 Thess. 1:5 Sanctifies - Rom. 15:16
Fills - Acts 2:4; 4:29-31; 5:18-20 Seals - Eph. 1:13-14; 4:30
Gives gifts - 1 Cor. 12:8-11 Strengthens - Eph. 3:16; Acts 1:8; 2:4;
1 Cor. 2:4
Glorifies Christ - John 16:14 Teaches - John 14:26
Guides in truth - John 16:13 Testifies of Jesus - John 15:26
Helps our weakness - Rom. 8:26 Victory over flesh - Rom. 8:2-4; Gal. 4:6
Indwells believers - Rom. 8:9-14; Gal. 4:6 Worship helper - Phil. 3:3
So, he is to produce fruit, convict sin, cleanse, interpret scripture, empower, regerates, mold character....etc
I dont see how a human being, who becomes a Christian and has the HS dwelling within him, can reject “god” who is dwelling within him and his message.
The church of Rome for a significant part of the last 1500 years authorized by even their own vicars of Christ, has gone on bloody rampages against Jews, native pagan peoples and then Protestants. And the Protestants then slaughtered the Catholics...and each other, then a host of other groups. Not to mention the corruption like indulgences and such.
It is convenient to say : “But man is not disposed to”... but it is obvious that the HS is not very good at his job. If the whole premise behind the church and NT dogma was to be an improvement over OT by creating a new condition of the heart, it has failed.
you wrote:
“I dont see how a human being, who becomes a Christian and has the HS dwelling within him, can reject “god” who is dwelling within him and his message.”
Simple. The sinner chooses to do so. God does not force us to be holy.
“The church of Rome for a significant part of the last 1500 years authorized by even their own vicars of Christ, has gone on bloody rampages against Jews, native pagan peoples and then Protestants.”
False. The Church of Rome never did any such thing nor authorized “bloody rampages against Jews, native pagan peoples and then Protestants.”
“And the Protestants then slaughtered the Catholics...”
Gee, you mean it wasn’t the “Protestant Church”? Do you see your own bias or do I need to spell it out for you?
“...and each other, then a host of other groups. Not to mention the corruption like indulgences and such.”
Which you most likely know even less about than you think you do.
“It is convenient to say : “But man is not disposed to”... but it is obvious that the HS is not very good at his job.”
False. The Holy Spirit is always efficacious. People aren’t.
“If the whole premise behind the church and NT dogma was to be an improvement over OT by creating a new condition of the heart, it has failed.”
That was not the premise.