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GOP ticket recalls past of Mormons, Catholics
The Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | Saturday, August 18, 2012 | L.V. ANDERSON

Posted on 08/18/2012 5:28:28 PM PDT by delacoert

Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan as his vice presidential candidate makes 2012 the first time in American history that a major party has run a ticket without a Protestant on it. Romney is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ryan is a Roman Catholic.

Have Mormons and Catholics always gotten along as well as the Republican running mates appear to?

No. The root of the conflict is doctrinal. The premise of the Book of Mormon is that the Bible is a corrupt and incomplete account of God's revelation — an implicit criticism of Catholic doctrine. The Book of Mormon also makes reference to an evil "church which is most abominable above all other churches," described more colorfully as "the mother of harlots." Although the Book of Mormon does not identify this evil institution as the Catholic Church, many Mormons have believed the two to be one and the same since the publication of the Book of Mormon in 1830.

Despite their doctrinal differences, Mormons and Catholics cohabited peacefully in Utah in the 19th century — but leaders of the two churches began passive-aggressively sniping at one another in the 20th century. In the late 1910s, Salt Lake City Catholic Bishop Joseph Sarsfield Glass commissioned murals in the Cathedral of the Madeleine that incorporated Bible passages that could easily be read as criticisms of Mormonism, including a line from St. Paul's letter to the Galatians that describes any alternate gospel as "anathema."

And in the 1930s and 1940s, a Catholic radio program and a Catholic pamphlet titled "A 'Foreign Mission' Close to Home!" convinced Mormon leaders — mistakenly — that Catholics were trying to convert Mormons to Catholicism.

Mormon mistrust of the Roman Catholic Church came to a head with the 1958 publication of Bruce McConkie's encyclopedia-like "Mormon Doctrine," which was not an official LDS publication, though McConkie was a low-ranking church leader. McConkie's entry for Catholicism simply referred readers to another entry called "Church of the Devil," which explicitly identified the Roman Catholic Church as being "most abominable above all other churches."

McConkie's book so upset the Catholic bishop of Salt Lake City that he visited the LDS church president in tears, which convinced the LDS leader to rein in anti-Catholic sentiment. Derogatory references to the Catholic Church were removed from later editions of "Mormon Doctrine," which is now out of print, and Mormon-Catholic relations in Utah became much friendlier in the 1960s and thereafter.

The most notable recent Mormon-Catholic clash came in 2001, when the Vatican began requiring Mormons who converted to Catholicism to be rebaptized — a move that implicitly called into question the Christian bona fides of the Mormon church. But the past decade has been a time of alliance between the churches, with Mormon and Catholic leaders coming together to fight gay marriage in Hawaii and California and to stand against perceived government encroachments on religious freedoms — stances that align with the Romney-Ryan platform.


TOPICS: Catholic; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: christians; inman; ldschurch; romney2012
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A little light on the subject.

1 posted on 08/18/2012 5:28:31 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Do Black Liberation Marxists get along with Northeast Pro Abort Catholics?


2 posted on 08/18/2012 5:40:10 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: delacoert

Dear Nr. Anderson:

Where were you when Obama’s “pastor” was g.ddam.ing America?


3 posted on 08/18/2012 5:44:45 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: delacoert
that Catholics were trying to convert Mormons to Catholicism.

To Christianity.

4 posted on 08/18/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: delacoert

I don’t recall the media asking how Baptist Al Gore got along with his “Christ Killer” Jewish running mate.


5 posted on 08/18/2012 5:50:08 PM PDT by Argus
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To: delacoert
The most notable recent Mormon-Catholic clash came in 2001, when the Vatican began requiring Mormons who converted to Catholicism to be rebaptized — a move that implicitly called into question the Christian bona fides of the Mormon church.

Not really rebaptized, but baptized into Christianity.
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6 posted on 08/18/2012 5:51:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Argus

The difference is that Christianity and Judaism, are real.

Scientology and Mormonism, are not.


7 posted on 08/18/2012 5:54:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

It is kind of weird. America has two Presidential choices, a candidate whose religion was founded by a polygamist, and wrote a Holy Book, that anyone who has FAITH must except as truth, that only his religion is the one true way to God. Let’s see now, ‘eh...what is our other choice’...I mean the candidate who represents all of the REST of us who are the vast majority? Something smells rotten in Denmark.


8 posted on 08/18/2012 6:01:21 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

Freaky election, traditional marriage being defended as God’s unbreakable rule, will have representing it, one of Joseph Smith’s Bishops of a direct line serving Smith from the original followers, that is Joseph Smith of Vermont with about 50 wives.


9 posted on 08/18/2012 6:12:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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First of all Mormons are Christians. Their religion satisfies the foundation of Christianity like any other.
1. That Jesus was our savior and died for our sins. There is now route to heaven except through him.
2. Baptism.
3. That the people must repent their sins and ask for forgiveness.

That being said there are 2 types of Christianity. Yes only 2 not more and no less.
Type 1: Catholicism
Type 2: Protestism.

Therefore Mormons are Protestants. Simple. Problem solved.

In fact I believe that Mormons (I’m not for sure) but I believe they self identify as Protestant.


10 posted on 08/18/2012 6:16:53 PM PDT by RC51
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To: rovenstinez

We’ve had three Unitarians as President. They weren’t Christians either. Nothing remarkable in any of their administrations.


11 posted on 08/18/2012 6:20:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RC51

No Christian church agrees with you, they all agree that Mormonism is not Christian, the Protestants, the Catholic church, the Greek Orthodox, all agree on that.


12 posted on 08/18/2012 6:27:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: RC51
Therefore Mormons are Protestants. Simple. Problem solved.

Wow, what a pant-load.

Research the word Protestant and you will find it breaks down to two roots.

1. Pro

2. Teste

Together it meant to testify for, and in this case it means to testify for Christ, not Mary.

You couldn't be more wrong, Mormons do not testify for Christ.

13 posted on 08/18/2012 6:34:37 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: RC51

Statements of Christian Denominations on Mormonism:

15 posted on 08/18/2012 7:04:20 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Research the word Protestant and you will find it breaks down to two roots. 1. Pro 2. Teste"

Right. And Catholic is about a protein database and a soccer player.

16 posted on 08/18/2012 7:04:33 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Together it meant to testify for, and in this case it means to testify for Christ, not Mary.

Wrong. By the way, junior, you ought to do a little research into Luther's devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

prot·es·tant noun
\ˈprä-təs-tənt, 2 is also prə-ˈtes-\

1 capitalized a: any of a group of German princes and cities presenting a defense of freedom of conscience against an edict of the Diet of Spires in 1529 intended to suppress the Lutheran movement b: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth; broadly: a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

2: one who makes or enters a protest

17 posted on 08/18/2012 7:10:01 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Research a little deeper “junior”


18 posted on 08/18/2012 7:18:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Rashputin
Right. And Catholic is about a protein database and a soccer player.

And your reply is as about intelligent as a frog on a log.

19 posted on 08/18/2012 7:20:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Pro = for

Test, teste = test- witness Latin testis testament, testimony

Ant, anti = ant-, anti- against, opposed to, preventive Greek ἀντί anti "against" antagonist, antibiotic, antipodes

Can you add those together , "junior"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English

20 posted on 08/18/2012 7:27:59 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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