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1 posted on 08/12/2012 9:20:14 PM PDT by Phinneous
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To: Phinneous

Can you see how history repeats itself? Jesus states
“I AM.” I am God and the Jewish leaders couldn’t handle
it...they said...nooo!!

Jesus states to mostly Jewish people, “unless you eat My
flesh and drink My blood, you have no life in you.” Some
of his disciples couldn’t handle such a saying and walked with Him no more. They said...nooo!!

Today and for almost four centuries past, some Christian, thank God, a minority cannot handle that “I AM” God Himself can be present in a tiny wafer. They say and said...nooo!!

God’s not crazy or lying in His words, this is the divine
plan.


74 posted on 08/13/2012 1:11:47 AM PDT by stpio
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I've found over the years that we all worry too much about these things we can't control. The Holy Spirit calls you to faith in Jesus. We can reason and argue till the cows come home and it really does no good. The Jews were chosen to bear witness to Jesus even if they don't believe themselves. Jesus was the fleshly image of God on Earth to be the blood sacrifice needed for forgiveness of sin.

If you really want to get on a Jew's nerves, ask them how their sins are forgiven for the last couple thousand years since the Temple was destroyed and they don't have their sacrifices anymore? If they are such sticklers for every jot and tittle of the Bible, then it seems they need to live as they did in 70AD. Jesus is found in every book of the Bible and fulfills every prophesy promised in each book. The guy in the film sound just like a Pharisee of old, and we know what Jesus thought of the church leaders back then, and it wasn't good. When Jesus was asked why He cured a sick person on the Sabbath, He explained it to them, but they still wanted to kill Him. Sorta reminds me of Muslims today. If you live by the Law, you will die by the Law. Just as on the first Pentecost 3000 were killed, on the Pentecost after Jesus sent the Holy Spirit, 3000 were saved. A Jew would just deny they were saved from their sin because they didn't have the Holy Spirit.

If anyone should have been hard to fool, it seems Saul/Paul would have been that man. He was educated and had zeal to obey the Torah. Yet he ended up writing most of the NT and suffered much for the work of Christ. Jesus NEVER suggested that we worship idols or other God's as the speaker suggested. He taught in the Synagogues and befuddled the teachers with His knowledge. I believe because I have faith. That faith comes from personal proof I have seen and heard with my own eyes. Everyone has to come to their own conclusions and you will never change a close heart. The Holy Spirit gives life to a dead person so they can see and hear. If you can't see and hear, you are still dead and speaking and showing will do nothing for a dead man. God calls whom He calls. My job is to testify of the good news and leave the hearing to the Spirit. Jesus fulfills all the requirements of Messiah, but if you don't want one, He will never fill the bill.

78 posted on 08/13/2012 2:54:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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Boy, ain’t you fellows lucky having a h*ll to go to?

Might even meet ol Mo and do the interfaith shuffle ;).


80 posted on 08/13/2012 3:23:21 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To me one of the most astounding words of our Lord and Saviour is in John 4:21-24:

“Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe Me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Ye worship what ye know not: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”

Another is in Isaiah 1:18:
“Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.”
And in Isaiah 53:6:
“All we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned everyone to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”

“By truth and mercy iniquity is purged; and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)

“For He[God] hath made Him[Jesus] to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)

“But when the fulness of time was come, God sent forth His Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba Father. Wherefore thou are a servant, but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.” (Galatians 4:4-7)

“Let everything that hath breath praise the LORD, praise Ye the LORD.” Psalm 150:6)


81 posted on 08/13/2012 3:37:50 AM PDT by Letmarch75
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To fulfill Gods plan.


83 posted on 08/13/2012 3:47:21 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To fulfill Gods plan.


84 posted on 08/13/2012 3:47:33 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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I believe that the answer is simple: God wants the Jews where they are-keeping the Torah. The Torah is the Link between heaven and earth. It establishes God’s presence on the earth.

No Torah, no God (including Jesus).

No Jews, no Torah. This is why Evil ALWAYS hates the Jews. This is how we know Evil.


85 posted on 08/13/2012 4:04:08 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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God has a special love for the Jew, and we Christians should too.
I’ve, by the grace, mercy, and the gift of God been a Christian for nearly 60 years (May 1953)and I’ve heard you cannot be a Christian and a Jew at the same time.
Then as I thought on this; I remembered there was no Gentiles in the beginning of the Church, only Jews. The Gentiles came in later, as the Christian Jews reached out to them.
As I see it,all 66 books in the Bible were written by the Jews, All the apostles of Christ were Jews. Jesus himself was a Jew, and He taught: Salvation was of the Jews...” (John 4:22)

I have owned for many years these 2 books, which I highly recommend:
“If I were a Jew” by Robert G. Lee; and “What the Church Owes the Jew” by Leslie B. Flynn. They are very readings and most enlightening for both the Gentile and the Jew (and even unbelievers).


86 posted on 08/13/2012 4:04:46 AM PDT by Letmarch75
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With nothing but respect and a reliance on a sense of humor, let me relate and old observation about Jewish culture that might help explain this.

If one asks three Jews a question, one should expect at least five contradictory opinions.


88 posted on 08/13/2012 5:38:35 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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It would seem Jesus should have known of microbial infection when he stated that he didn’t wash his hands prior to eating because it’s not what goes in but what comes out. After all, he is said to have known of his overall destiny. Of course he wouldn’t have spoken the truth of it since that would have interfered with history. But it would seem to me that he should have stuck with established custom which, in fact was closer to later perceived reality.


97 posted on 08/13/2012 8:15:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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Because the holiest Jewish prayer declares “the Lord is one.”


99 posted on 08/13/2012 8:44:08 AM PDT by zeebee
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The same reason chrstians reject islam, and sikhism, and bahai, and mormonism, and . . .


113 posted on 08/13/2012 9:27:43 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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Why did Israel reject Christ?

Rom 11:25-36
(25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
(26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
(27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
(28) As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.
(29) For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
(30) For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
(31) Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
(32) For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
(33) O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
(34) For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
(35) Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
(36) For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.


124 posted on 08/13/2012 10:30:41 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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Bookmark


125 posted on 08/13/2012 10:37:56 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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Answering your question with another question:

Do Jews accept the following?:

“A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”

Not trying to be a wise guy, but truly curious.


187 posted on 08/13/2012 2:18:08 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Why Did the Jews Reject Christianity?

Better question: Why Did Some Jews Reject What Would Later Become Christianity and Then Spend Almost the Next Two Millennia Redefining Their Own Religion in Reaction to It?
208 posted on 08/13/2012 3:18:38 PM PDT by aruanan
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Several of the OT prophets stated that God would turn away from Israel, and toward another people, to make Israel Jealous, and that Israel would be TEMPORARILY blinded until his work was done with that other people, and that at the time of fullness of the gentiles, all Israel would be saved.

So, if you truly are Israel, and truly believe in and worship God, you have nothing to worry about - you will be saved.


229 posted on 08/13/2012 4:17:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor
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