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1 posted on 08/10/2012 3:48:54 PM PDT by evangmlw
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To: evangmlw

Ye olde bookmark for later.


2 posted on 08/10/2012 3:59:24 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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The 12 Steps of AA, which can be applied to other addictions as well, are considered to be the proven model for recovery. The rate of success is hard to measure but suffice it to say that there are millions who have benefited and are happy, funtionning sober adults today as a result of committing themselves to “working the program”.
When something ain’t broke, why try to fix it?
Dr. Bob and Bill W. were really smart guys!


3 posted on 08/10/2012 4:04:59 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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Addiction and Grace - Gerald May

http://www.amazon.com/Addiction-Grace-Spirituality-Healing-Addictions/dp/0061122432/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1344646512&sr=1-1&keywords=addiction+and+grace+-+may#_

The very best faith based addiction book available. I recommend this and have seen and worked with many “step” models. We recover from all sin by Grace Alone, the AA model and all that emulate it are secular at best, at worst demonic. Remember the most perfect lie is the one closest to the truth.

Sola Gracia!


7 posted on 08/10/2012 6:07:24 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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And for anyone contemplating weighing in on this thread as an authority on the evil of addiction and how to overcome it...
please don’t bother unless you are an addict yourself.

It takes one to know one.


11 posted on 08/10/2012 7:45:16 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: evangmlw

And there are some God will save spiritually and not rescue from their addition.


16 posted on 08/11/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: evangmlw
Because AA is ill equipped to truly deal with the root of addiction which is a spiritual issue.

Wrong. That's EXACTLY what the program is about.

I not only desire to see a man free from addiction, but living a productive, peaceful, and joyous life.

People that stick with the program and actually work the steps experience these promises.

I think it's great you've found a solution. I thinks it's great that you wrote a book.

I don't think it's great that you come on here and piss all over the AA program.

50 posted on 08/14/2012 6:46:12 PM PDT by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: evangmlw

My 18.5 years continuous first time sobriety says the olde fashioned AA way works, where we say “alcoholic” not addict like this publicity seeker.


51 posted on 08/14/2012 6:52:35 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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I’m not the only one Jesus Christ has supernaturally transformed. You seek reformation, we have received transformation. Go ahead, live second best if you will, God has given you the choice to remain an alcoholic or addict if you choose. I chose to be set free, for yes indeed, “WHOM THE SON SETS FREE, IS FREE INDEED.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbXeP4nlbGI&feature=share


60 posted on 08/15/2012 1:09:07 PM PDT by evangmlw
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