You wrote:
“Oh, relax. If what I brought didn’t include the quote you were referencing, then WHAT QUOTE are you talking about?”
The one that was posted. If you don’t even know what quote was in question, then why would you think even for a second that you were ready for this discussion. Go back and read the thread. Find the false, phony, made-up quote which was falsely ascribed to Trent.
“I have searched this thread, and saw no other thing from Persevero presented as a quote from “Trent”. You called it a lie. I PROVED OTHERWISE. Should I re-post and highlight that one sentence from the larger context portion, so that you may see it?”
False. It was a lie. There is no such quote from Trent. What you posted was not the quote originally passed off as being from Trent. I realize facts don’t matter to some people, but they do matter to me. The simple fact is that a phony, made up quote was falsely ascribed to Trent. Nothing you can post or highlight will change that fact. The original quote ascribed to Trent was a lie. Plain and simple.
This was the text from Persevero's post #38 WRT the Bible and Trent:
The Council of Trent (1545-1564) placed the Bible on its list of prohibited books, and forbade any person to read the Bible without a license from a Roman Catholic bishop or inquisitor. The Council added these words: That if any one shall dare to read or keep in his possession that book, without such a license, he shall not receive absolution till he has given it up to his ordinary.
As Iscool as well as BlueDragon have shown, that EXACT phrase came from a document called "TEN RULES CONCERNING PROHIBITED BOOKS DRAWN UP BY THE FATHERS CHOSEN BY THE COUNCIL OF TRENT AND APPROVED BY POPE PIUS". In the link from Fordham University, The Jesuit University of New York http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/trent-booksrules.asp, the phrase is found at rule IV and the rule reads:
I don't think quibbling over a slight translation difference from what Persevero said and the rule should matter since it IS saying the same thing and it IS speaking about the translations of the Bible (Sacred Books) as well as other writings of those deemed "heretics". In Rule V, we read concerning the Bible:
The final paragraph of this document leaves no room for doubt as to what they were trying to do. It ends with:
It is no wonder people got the impression reading the Bible was a no-no.
As to this document and its connection to Trent, you simply need to go to the documents of the Council of Trent to read that there WERE "fathers" specifically chosen by the Council to develop such a list. In fact, that directive can be found under the Eighteenth Session http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct18.html:
This should be adequate, more than adequate really, to show that the initial statement was NOT a lie, was NOT an anti-Catholic phony, false, made-up quote falsely ascribed to Trent and that you owe a few people apologies for accusing them of such. I won't hold my breathe, though.
I already did that. Brought it, named the exact post, etc.
Ok. One more time. What was the quote, if not what I myself already went to all the effort to dig up from this thread?
First things first;
If there is some OTHer than what was presented in post # 38, on this thread, what was it, and where?