Posted on 07/26/2012 11:34:14 AM PDT by Teófilo
What is the "Torah" for you and how and why does it exclude the Gospel?
~Theo
What is the duty of any Christian? Christ referenced and quoted Moses thus made the Torah one and the same as the Gospel. IF one is ignorant of the Torah they are ‘blind’ as to the simplicity of the first coming of Christ. Leave the blind alone, as some future point in time on the Heavenly Father’s calendar He promises to peel away the scales that blind.
Godly love cannot be forced, bought or sold it comes from within as normal mothers have for their new born child. The first commandment still holds, Thou shall have NO other ‘god(s) before ME!!!! Never, not one time in the whole of the Bible during this flesh journey have the majority been on the side of ‘Right’, and there is nothing new under the sun.
If one were to use the NASB version of the bible whenever The NASB bible is a blessing for this alone. If one were a student of the WORD of G-d,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
one would know Yah'shua many times said it is written
when he was quoting the Tanach.
the Tanach is quoted it is placed in all upper case letters.
I doubt that interpretation. Remember during the cruxifixion, the crowd, which was not just a hand-picked palace crowd anymore, was going after Jesus’ supporters. They spotted Peter and he felt intimidated enough to deny he knew Jesus. If the mob wasn’t against Christ, that makes no sense.
I don’t understand the reference to “eating the fruit of knowledge of good and evil.” Please explain.
Peter did not deny Christ during the crucifixion.
The denial occurred very early in the trial sequence, at the high priest’s house. Peter had followed there from the Mount of Olives.
See Mark 14, etc.
“If you reject that statement, you can still believe He is a great moral teacher, but you can’t believe He is the Messiah in any meaningful sense.”
Not really. Great moral teachers don’t lie about themselves and puff themselves up as something they are not. Great moral teachers don’t give people false hope, or say that they will do things that they are incapable of achieving. They don’t have to resort to “do as I say, not as I do”. If Christ wasn’t the Son of God, then he was a fraud, not a great moral teacher.
Two parts One: his father was a Gentile. Two: He was a Jew because his mother was a Jewess. Interesting statement.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I wonder what is the source of this slur.
This is a complete mis-reading of the WORD of G-d.
but it is supported in the Rabbinical writings:
Man-made Traditions.
Good points.
Though moral failures of a teacher do not of themselves invalidate his teachings.
My statement was more along the lines of the many who refuse to recognize Jesus as the Son of God, but default to his being a “great moral teacher.” In fact, remarkably few people really criticize Jesus himself, as there just isn’t much there to base it on. Nietzche (sp?) is about the only one I can think of, and he based it on Jesus promoting a “slave morality.” Even Islamists must revere Jesus himself, if they remain true to Muslim doctrine. Jesus is arguably the second most important human in Islam, after Big Mo.
When Monty Python was looking around for a movie that would get attention, they discussed doing a parody of the life of Jesus, which would certainly have gotten attention! After a little research, they decided there just wasn’t much of anything there to make fun of effectively.
So they made Life of Brian instead, about a guy who is constantly being mistaken for Jesus.
Yah'shua is quoting Psalm 118:26 I think you are reaching for Luke 13:35.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
there is no proof of it being or not being a “which was not just a hand-picked palace crowd” — it could have been a paid mob. i’m not saying it was, just tossing that idea out there.
Like this :
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Lev 19:18 'You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any
grudge against the sons of your people, but
you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am YHvH.
This should suggest the Origin of Talmudic writings.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Good point and interesting comments....
I see the Ministry of Jesus as pivoting from his Judaic roots to including all the people of the earth, not just Jews. To me it would have been silly to focus on them only as what is the message here, all of you need to become Jewish?
Many if not most of the Jewish faith do not accept Christ as anything more than a great rabbi, not the son of God that was mentioned in pre New Testament books of the bible multiple times.
When he was on earth he was limited by his nature as a man, when he was crucified and rose again he was free to be everywhere at once, no more limits. Unless the expectation is for him to spread a prior religious doctrine that did not accept him for what he is - The Son of God, then why talk only to Jews?
JMHO
Citations please.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Reading characters at an equidistant count other than one.
That of course only works with the masoretic text, which uses no spaces.
Forget opinions, and read Romans 10 and 11 carefully.
It is all explained there.
Why? Is the title misleading? Is the article altogether unconcerned with the title? Does the author speak of matters indifferent to the title’s content, not either in favor of, or in opposition to the purported subject?
Up to this point, I’ve addressed myself only to the title. Up to this point, in their reply, no one has applied themselves to the title.
How many Jews approach you wanting to learn about Jesus?
Are they looking to convert or learn about Christian theology?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.