Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jesus Christ as Elder Brother [Mitt's ancestor originated Lds idea treating Jesus as mere brother]
BYU Studies ^ | 2006 | Corbin Volluz

Posted on 07/18/2012 5:07:41 AM PDT by Colofornian

Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints often refer to Jesus Christ as their elder brother. This expression of endearment appears in sermons, lessons, and publications...The title is used enough that some might think that elder brother is one of the many titles attributed to Christ in the scriptures, but nowhere do the scriptures use this expression in reference to Jesus. Nor can the idea that Jesus is our elder brother be ascribed with certitude to the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith...

Beginning in 1844 we find the first instances in which the Church leaders use the phrase elder brother...to refer to Christ. These six recordings were all recorded contemporaneously. June 22, 1844, Orson Pratt...

The concept that Christ is the elder brother...does not appear to have been actually articulated and recorded until 1871 by Orson Pratt:

Now, who is Jesus? He is only our brother, but happens to be the firstborn...how is he the firstborn? Because he is the eldest--the first one born of the whole family of spirits and therefore is our elder brother.

...It is apparently Orson Pratt, then, who should be credited with the first attempt to...use the title elder brother as applied to Jesus. It was Orson Pratt who first recorded the concept that Jesus is "our Brother" shortly before the death of Joseph Smith, and Orson Pratt who first articulated that Jesus is all humankind's elder brother in the spirit...

Section 93, an 1833 revelation to Joseph Smith, allows implicitly the idea of brotherhood with Jesus: since human spirits are eternal, these spirits were with God in the beginning just as Jesus was.

SNIP

To those not familiar with the plan of salvation, hearing Jesus Christ called an elder brother might be misunderstood as a diminution of Christ's high status...

(Excerpt) Read more at byustudies.byu.edu ...


TOPICS: History; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: elderbrother; inman; jesuschrist; lds; mormonism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 181-182 next last
To: Deb
Pretending this is all about "Religion" shows what dishonest fakes and phonies you all are.

HMMMmmm...

A thread titled Jesus Christ as Elder Brother [Mitt's ancestor originated Lds idea treating Jesus as mere brother] is considered by you not to be about religion.

An article from a RELIGIOUS based university is NOT about religion; according to you.

You live in a STRANGE world!

101 posted on 07/18/2012 2:31:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: aMorePerfectUnion
Perhaps those who object to this discussion so strenuously, do so because they are wearing undergarments that are too tight...I'll bet they AIN'T the 'special' ones.

Only about 15% of all MORMONs get to wear THOSE!

(No WONDER the other 85% are so darned GROUCHY all the time!)

102 posted on 07/18/2012 2:33:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Deb
I don’t wear underpants.

DANG!!

ANother slow pitch.

Shall I swing or let it pass?

103 posted on 07/18/2012 2:35:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: Deb
I don’t wear underpants.

No "Forever Family" for you!!

 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

104 posted on 07/18/2012 2:36:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: Tennessee Nana

How do you know that EITHER of those adjectives apply?


105 posted on 07/18/2012 2:37:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: Deb
So there were no issues between Christians and Mormons before Mitt decided to run for President?

Interesting...

106 posted on 07/18/2012 2:48:44 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Deb; Godzilla
Oh, yes, there were ever so many other threads in the Religion forum. Really. Honest. And I totally believe you.

(cough) Zilla did point them out to you, and you seem to be able to find the RF on your own to verify...

But it is fun to toss the occasional stink bomb into this vat snakes and watch you all slither around and hiss.

How simply delightful for you, you have found something to do in the Religion Forum that matches your Theological knowledge and abilities...

107 posted on 07/18/2012 2:54:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

Comment #108 Removed by Moderator

To: Deb; All
{We haven't had this much undergarment banter on a religion thread since the last Mormon "magic underwear" thread somebody posted}

Well, Deb 'tween your underthings fashion show, your "stink bomb" & your fiery posts, you bring the "tainment" portion to these "infotainment" threads...and keep the bump count higher...What's next? Longerie descriptions? Cup size TMI re: your bras [if you where one]...and your tagline...would you utter such a thing about Jesus?

109 posted on 07/18/2012 3:17:41 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

Comment #110 Removed by Moderator

To: ejonesie22

Well that post isn’t bout me...NOT an ex-MO...family & ancestors lds...I never was...also never been divorced...when they reach these posters seem to overreach...& go from gossip to false slander...


111 posted on 07/18/2012 3:22:25 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: IWONDR

See post #97


112 posted on 07/18/2012 3:51:11 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

Comment #113 Removed by Moderator

To: IWONDR

Is this what u commonly do @ home? Talk smak behind their back? Next time you falsely gossip your mind-reading about another poster, ping them


114 posted on 07/18/2012 4:26:02 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: Colofornian

I have often wondered why with the hundreds of threads started everyday on FR there are a few FR people who are obsessed with getting on Religion Forum and not contributing to the discussion but repeating the something over and over “you are just mormon haters”, “you are obsessed with mormonism”, “you just want to destroy Romney”.......their obsession with with the Religion Forum and posts about religion is starting to get scary.


115 posted on 07/18/2012 4:43:41 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: T Minus Four

oh poo. are you stumping for Obama


116 posted on 07/18/2012 4:52:06 PM PDT by dalebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: IWONDR
Heaven save America from 4 more years of BO.

Save?

HOW>

By having a HERETIC be Leader of our Country??

How is THAT supposed to be an improvement?

117 posted on 07/18/2012 6:06:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: aMorePerfectUnion
This is an educated fool, unfortunately trapped in a cult.

I've seen NO evidence of this!

118 posted on 07/18/2012 6:07:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: dalebert; T Minus Four
oh poo. are you stumping for Obama

That's almost as good as playing the RACE card here on FR!!

'bout as effective; too.

119 posted on 07/18/2012 6:08:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]

To: Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion

OK guys that exchange is funny.


120 posted on 07/18/2012 6:35:50 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 118 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 181-182 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson