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To: Springfield Reformer
So, do you believe in the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist? you state that I already told you that “real” and “spiritual” presence are functionally equivalent, --> so do you take that to mean that the Eucharist is both the body of Christ and bread?
418 posted on 07/04/2012 11:20:48 PM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

I see you are quite busy with other posters, so I don’t know if you’ll see this, but I did want to respond briefly, just to let you know I wasn’t ignoring you.

As to the question you are asking, I have elaborated on it elsewhere and I am short on time and do not feel like unfurling the whole thing again. Bottom line, there are some who use the word “real” to mean “corporeal plus.” But real is whatever actually exists, and that can be spirit just as much as it can be atoms and quarks. God is spirit, and God is real. Therefore spirit is real.

Take that definitional framework back to the original context of the post of mine you’re quoting, and it should be quite clear to you what I am saying. Transubstantiation, no. Spiritual presence, yes, and as real as it gets.

Peace,

SR


460 posted on 07/05/2012 6:43:03 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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