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To: Springfield Reformer
Springfield, as with the Bible, you need to read in entirety, not excerpts

your posts are filled with this errors, besides the one above, you excerpt Justin Martyr

if you bothered to actually read Justin Martyr you'd read For not as common bread nor common drink do we receive these; but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the word of God and had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so too, as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by Him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus

From the First Apology.

Word of advice - read in entirety, not pick and choose.

377 posted on 07/04/2012 9:48:06 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

Sure I read it. Why would you suggest I didn’t? It just isn’t necessary to read transubstantiation into it. Or a priestly miracle. Or adoration of the host. Or the tabernacle. Etc.

Which is why I raised the other fathers. They provide a broader context. But if you want to explain away each of the other father’s presented, I’m all ears. These are passages that strike me as supporting, at best, spiritual presence, but not transubstantiation, which is a very specific, very late doctrine, for which one can get anathematized by Rome if one doesn’t buy into it. Proving that is a heavy load to bear, and it’s all yours. Go for it.


383 posted on 07/04/2012 10:11:26 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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