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To: daniel1212

My post did not reflect denying evidence there is many liberal Catholic’s. I am well aware they are out there just as there are extreme heretics that live their faith according to how they interpret Scripture in protestantism.

At least in Catholicism polls can be taken and measured from those who decent from dogmatic teaching of the Church,thus showing the Church what it must concentrate on to help those in error. In protestantism there is no clear teaching, it’s a do it my way theology that can never be measured since there is not clear teachings. Basically, it’s read the Bible and do whatever makes you feel holy.Protestantism is a pluralistic faith without clarity.


37 posted on 07/03/2012 4:37:13 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
In protestantism there is no clear teaching, it’s a do it my way theology that can never be measured since there is not clear teachings. Basically, it’s read the Bible and do whatever makes you feel holy.

That may be a favorite Catholic delusion but (see here for a more extended response) the reality is that under the Roman model of sola ecclesia, formal divisions and schisms are also apparent. Her interpretation of Tradition, history and Scripture has significant differences with other Catholic groups and churches and others who operate under her sola ecclesia model, which also claim to be the one true church based upon their interpretation.

And while certain core truths require assent of faith, Rome allows varying degrees of interpretation according to her "hierarchy of truths," and the "sense which holy mother church held and holds" can see different interpretations. For just as Protestants cannot claim infallibility in interpreting their supreme authority (Scripture), neither can RCs in interpreting theirs (the magisterium), and interpretation is required, even in determining which of the potentially hundreds of infallible pronouncements really are so (so that they may provide the necessary assent of faith), as well as to varying degrees the meaning of these and the multiplicity of non-infallible teachings.

And disagreement is allowed to some extent (open to interpretation) as regards the latter category, once one has determined which of the different levels a magisterial teaching, or parts thereof, fall under.

Meanwhile, under the SS model even without one centralized formal magisterium, rather than doctrinal anarchy, historically they also have overall manifested assent to core truths, and a common front against those who deny them, as well as "traditions of men."

And because of their submission to Scripture, they recognize the authority of their respective magisterium, but as in Scripture, this is always conditional. The church itself began in dissent from those who sat in the seat of Moses. (Mt. 23:2; Mk. 8:31; 11:28-33)

And due to a Scripturally based regeneration and relationship with Christ, evangelicals also manifest the unity of the Spirit across denominational lines in many ways, and yet (in this late hour) testify to greater unity overall in many important moral views and teachings in comparison to their Catholic counterparts.

Under SS, rather than assurance of truth resting upon self-proclaimed assured infallibility, truth is established upon the weight of Scriptural warrant. While this allows challenges, evil is overcome by good (not the sword of men or forgeries which Rome too much relied upon), by evidencing conflation with the supernaturally established Scriptures in text and in power, and which requires the church to not simply claim to be that of the Living God, but to manifest it. Which i need to do much better.

38 posted on 07/03/2012 9:08:36 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: stfassisi

“Protestantism is a pluralistic faith without clarity.”

T’was the lack of clarity in another faith that spawned what are now a panoply of religions that are called “Protestant” mostly by those who really mean “not like us”.

Catholics should pity the poor misguided girl and hope that she finds some grounding based in faith before she self-destructs. I do. Then again I’m “not like you”.


344 posted on 07/15/2012 7:59:53 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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