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To: Cronos

“stpio” newbie - are you verdugo?

Ok, this is a strange position for me, a Catholic to defend Lutherans, but your statement Martin Luther was not a holy man, who would base their faith, their salvation on his heresies? is not only wrong but stupid. No Lutheran claims Luther was a holy man and they would say that they base their faith and salvation on the Bible.

As a Catholic I repudiate your post’s divisive tone. You want to debate with a Lutheran, then explain nicely why you think he’s wrong. Otherwise it’s just spouting vitriol and gets us nowhere”

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I said I was sorry, I apologized for mistaking you for an
anti-Catholic, not enough I guess. This reply cronos makes no sense and it’s rude and unkind. Name caller.

So, Lutherans know Luther for what he is and they remain
Lutheran? You are aware of the heresies? Catholics do
not believe or defend Luther’s crazy heresies. Lutherans and most non-Catholic Christians do. To say the Bible, a Catholic book is your only authority while you reject and attack Roman Catholicism is crazy.


222 posted on 07/13/2012 12:14:28 AM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio; xone
Cronos: Typical ex-Catholic...we have such sour pusses on FR as well

stpio: I am not a “sour puss”,

Ok, stpio is an ex-Catholic. Didn't know that, thanks for the information, stpio..

223 posted on 07/13/2012 12:28:50 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: stpio; xone
So, Lutherans know Luther for what he is and they remain Lutheran? -- yeah. Luther's personality is a separate issue. I disagree with Lutheran points of view on theological grounds, not on Luther's foibles.

Luther’s crazy heresies. -- ok, now the only folks who say that are not Catholics but loony websites -- to me, Lutherans, the conservative kind (not the ELCA) are close to orthodoxy -- they hold to the same concept of baptism and they believe in the True Presence in the Eucharist. They also have a concept of the Sacrament of Repentence

They are close to orthodoxy.

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Nice try by the way of trying to push a wedge between Catholics and non-Cahtolics

226 posted on 07/13/2012 12:49:24 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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