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To: boatbums

“and their works do follow them”

THEY do not go before them, to prepare heaven and happiness for them; nor do they take THEM along with them, and use THEM as pleas for their admission into the heavenly glory; but they will follow them, and will be found to praise, and honour, and glory, and will be taken notice of by Christ, and graciously rewarded by him, at his appearing and kingdom. (http://gill.biblecommenter.com/revelation/14.htm)

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Hi boatbums, it’s your response to Rev 14:13 not Daniel,
thanks.

Good Lord, using the reverse. Who said anything about “before”, the verse doesn’t say “before”, it says “follow”, as in the results of....

Who is “THEY” and “THEM” in the excuse to reject faith and works? Does the bible commentator mean “they” are works, we don’t take “them” to Heaven? Wrongo, we don’t get into Heaven without them, God’s grace, faith and our good works.

Protestants will not let go of “faith alone.” They know
it’s source, Luther and still believe it!

Here, once again, Our Lord explains it simply to Protestants. He’s teaching you, preparing you to accept
the faith and hoping you will let go of the heresies.
After the Great Warning, no more Protestantism or schisms.

Jesus speaks of three heresies in one paragraph.

1. faith alone

2. the altar call, accepting Jesus into your heart one time
as your personal Lord and Savior justifies you

3. prosperity gospel (most, not all non-Catholic Christians are understanding this is a lie and reject it)

April 1, 2012

message to Kevin Barrett

...But not all that call themselves by My name shall take part as My bride. Only those that overcome shall be allowed to sit with Me on My throne to rule the nations with a rod of iron.

Oh hear Me, My people. Why do you listen to the hirelings and false teachers and prophets? Did I not say in My word that not all that say to me ‘Lord’ ‘Lord’ shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, save those that do the will of the Father who is in heaven? Then why do you still go about doing your own will and tell yourselves that you are My bride? My people, you have been lied to by the enemy of your soul. Seek Me in these things. Surely I will reveal My truth to you. I love you, My dear children, and it is My desire that each of you share My throne with Me. But unfortunately only a remnant shall overcome. For too many have listened to the lies told by the false shepherds and prophets. They speak of how you each are already cleansed and adorned in righteousness simply by your belief on My name. These are all lies, My people. For does not My word say that he who DOES righteousness is righteous? Yes, My people, you are made righteous by your faith in Me, but it is fulfilled by your obedience to My voice. It IS NOT imputed to you by a one-time confession of My name. Oh, My people, you have been lied to. Read My word for yourselves.

Why listen to those that fatten themselves by fleecing My sheep? I have not sent many of the shepherds that are out there. They have sent themselves for their own glory and their own profit. Oh, My people, did I not say in My word to judge them by their fruit? Then where is the fruit, My people? Oh, but those that have itching ears care not about the fruit. They want to be told all is well and that they SHALL PROSPER if they simply believe on My name and My promises. Lies, lies, lies, I tell you.

http://www.hearhisheart.wordpress.com/


178 posted on 07/12/2012 12:38:35 AM PDT by stpio
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To: All

Okay, it was a paragraph and a half in the message to
Kevin Barrett. I divided it up for easier reading.

Even easier, Jesus tells you “faith alone” is a lie in
two sentences. “DOES” is a “work” an action.

My dear children, and it is My desire that each of you share My throne with Me. But unfortunately only a remnant shall overcome. For too many have listened to the lies told by the false shepherds and prophets. * They speak of how you each are already cleansed and adorned in righteousness simply by your belief on My name. These are all lies, My people. * For does not My word say that he who DOES righteousness is righteous?


179 posted on 07/12/2012 12:47:16 AM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio; boatbums; CynicalBear; RnMomof7; smvoice; daniel1212; caww; presently no screen name; ...
Protestants will not let go of “faith alone.” They know it’s source, Luther and still believe it!

And Catholics CANNOT let go of the concept that others follow men as has been ingrained into them to do.

Read this very carefully.....

I'm typing really slow so that you can get it.......

I do NOT care what Luther had to say. I do NOT follow him. I do not believe in salvation by grace through faith in Christ because he verbalized it, I believe it because it's clearly spelled out in Scripture.

Can I be any more clear than that, or do I need to shout?

Yes, Christians know the source of salvation by faith. It's called the Bible, the Holy Spirit inspired, God breathed Word of God that HE gave us.

189 posted on 07/12/2012 7:20:16 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slav)
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