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To: RaisingCain
You stated the other poster was abusing Christ (shaming the “Gospel of Salvation”) by attacking Mormonism and the proven pathological liar known as Mitt Romney. How exactly is that so?

When someone leaps to questioning your Christianity because you do not sign on to attacking the adherents of the ISM, THAT is abusing the Gospel of Grace, using the Salvation in Christ as a tool to try and squelch the person. And you know that else you would not be now trying to twist that into something else.

If Mitt Romney is indeed a liar, and if Mormonism is indeed a cult (and it is), exactly how would Christ be offended by posts that speak both those truths? And certainly those posters are no apologists for other liars like Obama. So how exactly are they shaming Christ, as you irrationally suggest?

You have twisted what I was addressing completely around, to try and mischaracterize so you can fit your accusation into the preset mold of your agenda. Very alinskeyesque.

Milt is a liar. MormonISM is not Christianity. However, that is not what I was addressing, despite the hurrahs of your mischaracterization being 'brilliant'. You have purposely mischaracterized what I posted. And just so there is no pretend misunderstanding, you nor I can shame Christ, but folkks seem to think they are at liberty to try and use The Gospel of Grace as a tool for political attacks. If someone uses His Gospel as a bludgeon to try and shut up others who are speaking out regarding the misuse of the religion forum by trying to turn it into a political attack venue, THAT is what I was addressing.

As you are a n00b, I will just have a chuckle at your confused query of am I a Mormon.

If you ignore the question a second time, I’ll know your true reasoning isn’t religious over a worry for Christ, but are purely political.

I do not worry over Christ. I am offended by someone trying to use His Grace as if it can be welded like a political ramrod to shut someone up. How very alinskyesque to try and turn my disagreement with what I address as the problem with the way the forum is being misused, into an accusation of same against my posting. And you are not one to demand I respond to your purposed mischaracterizations or else you will know this or that, n00b. YOU are using the religion forum to make political hay. Why will eventually come out, it always does when a n00b pretends to be something they really are not. we shall wait and see with you.

246 posted on 06/23/2012 5:45:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

“When someone leaps to questioning your Christianity because you do not sign on to attacking the adherents of the ISM, THAT is abusing the Gospel of Grace, using the Salvation in Christ as a tool to try and squelch the person. And you know that else you would not be now trying to twist that into something else.”


And who, exactly, questioned someone’s salvation? Can you show me post number, give me a link? Can you provide a quote?

Considering my reply to you did not insult you, but merely challenged you, and the first thing you did was denigrate me (”nOOb”) in response, and allege that you could not make sense of my simple question (acting as if I was stupid), maybe you need to take a step back and examine your own motivations.


“Milt is a liar. MormonISM is not Christianity. However, that is not what I was addressing, despite the hurrahs of your mischaracterization being ‘brilliant’. You have purposely mischaracterized what I posted. And just so there is no pretend misunderstanding, you nor I can shame Christ, but folkks seem to think they are at liberty to try and use The Gospel of Grace as a tool for political attacks. If someone uses His Gospel as a bludgeon to try and shut up others who are speaking out regarding the misuse of the religion forum by trying to turn it into a political attack venue, THAT is what I was addressing.”

And all of it is in your head. You’re the one accusing people of using “religion” as a political attack. You are telling everyone that people who oppose Mormonism, and realize that it is going to be a big issue throughout the election since Mitt Romney is the nominee, are doing so only for political purposes. In reality, you are the one reacting politically to things that you admit you already agree with anyway.

Exactly how does anyone on this forum benefit politically when, presumably, most are Republican or are Conservative? (There’s a difference.) What candidate do you think they are promoting? It’s not Obama. Do you think they believe they are going to get in some other candidate, maybe Sarah Palin, by making these threads? Of course not. So what is the motivation?

The motivation is the outrage that ungodly men are leading the nation, Mitt Romney included, and Mormonism is going to be apologized for (and already is) despite being the cult that it is.

Consider it education and an expression of that frustration, which I agree with and share completely.


“Why will eventually come out, it always does when a n00b pretends to be something they really are not. we shall wait and see with you.”

You Mittbots started it, and so I will finish it. If you can read my mind, certainly I should be allowed to read yours!


247 posted on 06/23/2012 6:05:51 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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