I'm buying popcorn in bulk for the coming major media exposure of mormonism's arcane doctrine and beliefs.
The author is mistaken in his claim that the dispute is about Jesus. In fact, the dispute is about the claim that God was once a man and man may become a god if he only follows Joseph Smith's dictates.
Everytime I read the first few sentences then have to check to make sure it’s not semi-satire.
NYT: Hey, let’s find a liberal (pretend) Mormon to write column attacking Mormonism, Romney and Christians all at the same time.
Weird article
The part I find most ironic about this article is this....
Most/many mainline Churches are NON Christian, most/all of NY Times readers that attend Churches are NON Christian, so I do not quite get the point.
A good test might be this...have you asked Jesus into your life, have you thanked him for dying on the Cross for your sins, might be a good starting point.
If you vote Democrat, you spit on Christ, you are saying killing 60 million plus of God`s children is just fine, you are saying that the Word of God (Christ) should be banned from the classroom/public square, and you are condoning and teaching young children (the ones that are not being aborted) that a homo life style is OK, even though GOD HAS SPOKEN VERY CLEARLY ON ALL THESE ISSUES.
a vote for democrat is to spit on Christ!
I know a lot of Mormons. As a group they include some of the finest people I have ever met. I’ll take a Mormon like Romney over a stupid gang banger wannabee dope smoking cocaine user like Obama any day.
Here are the creators of South Park having fun with Mormons. Pretty funny stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lCYqn2jcs
How did this Mormon misrepresent Christians in the NY Times? Well...consider this statement: Christians respond that because Mormons don’t believe — in accordance with the Nicene Creed promulgated in the fourth century — that Jesus is also the Father and the Holy Spirit, the Jesus that Mormons have in mind is someone else altogether.
Jesus isn't also the Father and the Holy Spirit...Christianity has long repudiated this...which is called modalism (which, btw, was in early Mormonism--especially some of the Book of Mormon passages).
Now, Oneness Pentecostals are modalists...and believe this...but this wasn't taught in the Nicene Creed...
Christians believe 3 Persons; but so intimately connected they are one God. One Nature.
Even at the human level, a close-knit man and wife are "one" and "no longer two" -- says Jesus (Matthew 19). A family can be many, yet one family.
If a family and a couple can be more "one" beyond purpose and identity, then the very God who created family and instituted marriage can be recognized as a Component One!
Ah, there it is. Rather than attack the LDS church directly the Slimes tries to play it shrewd by attempting to separate Romney from the Christian vote. I wonder of the Slimes will play this up 60 days in a row like they did as they invented stories about Abu Ghraib. Look for “horror stories” about Scientology-like. Clearly, the libs are showing their level of worry about Obama’s prospects in November.
It appears the DNC has issued the order to launch the attacks. Dangerous gambit, given Obama’s own “religious” background, though.
Ah, there it is. Rather than attack the LDS church directly the Slimes tries to play it shrewd by attempting to separate Romney from the Christian vote. I wonder of the Slimes will play this up 60 days in a row like they did as they invented stories about Abu Ghraib. Look for “horror stories” about Scientology-like practices. Clearly, the libs are showing their level of worry about Obama’s prospects in November.
It appears the DNC has issued the order to launch the attacks. Dangerous gambit, given Obama’s own “religious” background, though.
You have to admire the author’s honesty in admitting that Mormonism is non-Christian.
However, Mormonism is inherently changeable in a way that Judaism and Christianity are not. From a Christian point of view, we should be hoping that Mormons move, individually or collectively, toward Christianity.
Then I am getting my bowl to share the popcorn, maybe a lemon aid to go with.
When will the FR mormons jump on the defend this person and his tirade against God Almighty, try and tell us "this is not the norm and while stamping their foot yell "I am too a Christian".
The NYT is doing its normal incompetent job of trying to stir things up.
I know many Mormans. All are far, far, FAR above the Obamadork in terms of morality and intelligence.
The writer of this article is about as Mormon as Obama is a Christian.
Nice try, NYT.
Now, shove your paper up your smelly Obama and prepare for your upcoming unemployment.
Probably the only accurate statement in the whole article.
If Jesus "a bumpkin carpenter from some obscure backwater" and show such contempt and derision for Him, they WHY do they call themselves the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
Why not just disown Him completely and admit that they follow Smith as their savior?
Sounds like the Devil comforting the wicked.
(Also, a typical godless lib answer to anyone who practices a perversion of some sort..... "I hope --place name or group here----- eventually realizes that it doesn’t need Christianity’s approval )
1. NYT agenda is clear.
2. Notwithstanding No. 1, Mormons are not Christians. They are nice people misled by a fraud who wanted power, sex, and money and so made up a religion.
The National Geographic Channel is running this “American Outliers” series about religious minorities (the Amish, the Hutterites, etc.)
I’d bet dinner at Ruths Chris this all culminates in a “Those Wacky Mormons!” series in October.
Weird. This may be the way a lot of Mormons think, but it certainly isn’t a loyal Mormon thing to say it publicly in The New York Times, because the obvious purpose is to undermine Romney and send people stumbling back to Obama. Or to persuade Evangelicals to stay home and not vote.
Obviously this Mormon is much like the rogue Catholics the Times regularly calls on to undermine the Catholic Church. Maybe a MINO instead of a CINO. The difference being that much of what he says is what a lot a Mormons say privately among themselves. But they certainly aren’t supposed to be saying this in public. It’s a violation of Mormon Takiya, if you’ll pardon the borrowed term.
This is an interesting piece of writing, weaving seamlessly together the well-ripened fruits of a good education with a near total misunderstanding - if one were to be charitable in one’s judgment - of Christianity. The piece itself is curious. The piece of work who put it together is not. He is simply a well-educated ignoramus. Sadly, this is what passes for insightfulness today.
If you want to offer sound information to your fellow Mormons and people of all faiths; might I suggest one reads “The Proper Role of Government” by the late, great Ezra Taft Benson. He was the president of the Mormon church and also Ike’s Sec. of Ag.
Link: http://www.properroleofgovernment.com/
I believe our FReeper community will find favor in his wisdom ... (except for RINO’s).
It is a quick read.