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To: Elsie

Does your post mean you think we are electing a national pastor?


312 posted on 06/12/2012 12:29:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; Elsie; All
Does your post mean you think we are electing a national pastor?

Your Q is intended for Elz, but I'll toss in my perspective here:

Here's how I would frame it: Question A at hand: Are we voting for a 'pastor-in-chief' or commander-in-chief?
Principle (A): This question addresses not only the role and identity of the POTUS, but the perceived 'self' identity of the candidate. If a given candidate thinks he's a 'god' or 'would-be' god, he exposes himself as deceived on one of the most basic elemental identity issues you can think of.

If a candidate doesn't even know who he is fundamentally, and inwardly lauds himself as 'divine,' why would we want to reinforce such an idolater who steals glory from the One True God?

Principle B also deals with Question A, but from a distinct angle: Is a POTUS a 'minister' of sorts?

Many say 'no.'

I say 'yes,' and here's why:

Even non-religious people tend to at times honor the Bible. The Biblical record shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the TRUE Lord -- not by some low-level Mormon god who is part of a great number of Mormon gods...

And these Biblical leaders did not -- or were not to -- worship false gods/idols. The Old Testament is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had kings leaning toward a secular model vs. "pastors in chief." But that didn't mean that these kings' ministrations were any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture.

It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" like the soup kitchen down the street. History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader adheres to, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.

318 posted on 06/12/2012 1:02:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: D-fendr; Elsie

Elsie (Tommy Monson)We are NOT electing a pastor/pope, but a PRESIDENT!!

D-f: Does your post mean you think we are electing a national pastor?
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No

mormons dont have a pastor or a pope...

They did their best to get right away from anything Christian...

But they do have a PRESIDENT of the mormons AKA “prophet”

So their “president” Tommy M cant wait to be “president” of America...

err cant wait for mormon bishop and high priest Willard Romney to be co-president...

or something...

Its enough excitement to make the old codger wet his magic Depends...

Oh Joey...

praise to da man..

Oh Briggie...

hail to Brigham Young..


323 posted on 06/12/2012 1:56:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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