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To: svcw

Romance movie? WTH are you talking about?

Yes they had guns. They knew they were likely to be illegally attacked and killed and they prepared to defend themselves knowing that the whole thing was a sham.

They did not try and escape. That’s an absolute load of Bravo Sierra. Smith was already across the River preparing to go West when the word came and his wife asked him to return. So he did so and freely gave himself up, stating at the time he was going like a lamb to the slaughter...and he was.

If he wanted to escape, he never would have returned.

They did not try to escape, they used their unalienable rights to self defense to defend themselves against a mob and a pre-determined setting of murder and death were they were left to the very mob that had vowed to kill them...and they died in the result.

I teach this each year in our classes arounf the June time frame which makes some members uncomfortable...but the fact is he had the wepaons because he knew his rights were being trampled, even though it was illegal to have them in the jail. He tried to defend himself and others...and failed and died in the attempt.

Romance movie?...please, you have got to be kidding me. Forgive and excuse me, but what a sophmoric statement.


101 posted on 06/09/2012 8:35:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
stating at the time he was going like a lamb to the slaughter...and he was.

Provided, of course, the lamb was armed and ready to engage in a shoot-out.

105 posted on 06/09/2012 8:42:14 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Jeff Head

They were in jail, when their cohorts smuggled them guns, they died in a shoot out while trying to escape.
I said a romance cowboy movie, because you Jeff are apparently trying to make this incident into something it was not by romanticizing it.


106 posted on 06/09/2012 8:49:43 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Jeff Head; svcw
Romance movie? WTH are you talking about? (to svcw)

(Jeff, shouldn't this be WTOD are you talking about? -- if you want proper emphasis that is? Mormon "hell" is just a temp spirit prison; Outer Darkness, otoh, is serious business)... :)

131 posted on 06/09/2012 1:36:15 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Jeff Head
So he did so and freely gave himself up, stating at the time he was going like a lamb to the slaughter...and he was.

What a Prophet!!

142 posted on 06/09/2012 2:36:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head
Smith was already across the River preparing to go West when the word came and his wife asked him to return.

Which one?

143 posted on 06/09/2012 2:37:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head
I teach this each year in our classes arounf the June time frame which makes some members uncomfortable...but the fact is he had the wepaons because he knew his rights were being trampled, even though it was illegal to have them in the jail.

What a LAMB!!

(He must have FORGOTTEN #12 AoF)

144 posted on 06/09/2012 2:40:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head
I teach this each year in our classes arounf the June time frame which makes some members uncomfortable...but the fact is he had the wepaons because he knew his rights were being trampled, even though it was illegal to have them in the jail.

What a LAMB!!

(He must have FORGOTTEN #12 AoF)

145 posted on 06/09/2012 2:41:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head
I teach this each year....

What a LAMB!!

HERE is how a REAL Lmab goes to the slaughter:

Matthew 26:47-56

47 While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people. 48 Now the betrayer had given them a sign, saying, “The one I will kiss is the man; seize him.”

49 And he came up to Jesus at once and said, “Greetings, Rabbi!” And he kissed him.
50 Jesus said to him, “Friend, do what you came to do.”
Then they came up and laid hands on Jesus and seized him.

51 And behold, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest and cut off his ear.

52 Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. 53 Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then should the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must be so?”

55 At that hour Jesus said to the crowds, “Have you come out as against a robber, with swords and clubs to capture me? Day after day I sat in the temple teaching, and you did not seize me. 56 But all this has taken place that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.”

Then all the disciples left him and fled.


146 posted on 06/09/2012 2:46:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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