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To: boatbums
As long as a suitable excuse is provided, an annulment is a given which permits remarriage IN the church and that definitely is NOT following the stated dogmas of the Church

If a "suitable excuse is provided" who are you to invalidate it?

195 posted on 06/05/2012 7:02:36 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger
As long as a suitable excuse is provided, an annulment is a given which permits remarriage IN the church and that definitely is NOT following the stated dogmas of the Church

If a "suitable excuse is provided" who are you to invalidate it?

Cool your jets! The point is that what the Catholic Church has done in practice goes against what "she" claims in doctrine. If indeed the Catholic Church follows the same faith that the Apostles did, then it is fair to question how they actually perform in reality. The reason people bring up the "Ted Kennedy" issue is he was a well known, wealthy politician who made his Roman Catholic faith a part of his persona. When he was known as a philanderer and drunkard, among other failures of character, and he divorced his wife of 24 years with three children, he then decided he wanted to get remarried in the Catholic Church to his new honey, who was also Catholic. Canon law denies both the right to a Catholic marriage as well as receiving of the Eucharist to a divorced person who remarries - since the new marriage is seen as adultery in the eyes of the Church as the first marriage is still binding. The only option he had was to get an "official" annulment and the grounds were he did not enter the marriage with the intent to be faithful. That the Church granted an annulment as well as the new marriage on those grounds is an awful example to the world of how the Church views the marriage vows and it appears that money and fame can get you anything you want. THAT, my FRiend, is what I criticize and I have every right to. It is hardly been the exception as divorce among Catholics is no less rare than other religious groups.

224 posted on 06/05/2012 9:17:08 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: papertyger

So Kennedy’s wife was granted a divorce because Kennedy committed adultery and your religion gives him an annulment because he later told your religion that he knew from the get go that he couldn’t be faithful???

The Catholic wife then is in a pretty poor position...She was never legitimately married then but lived a life of sin creating a whole house full of kids...

What woman with kids would even consider getting a Catholic annulment??? And what about Kennedy...He created a herd of kids out of wedlock...

Let’s not forget, annulment means ‘never legitimately married’...

One word comes to mind...Fraud...I don’t know how you guys can discuss annulment with each other without breaking out into hilarious laughter...


233 posted on 06/06/2012 5:57:19 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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