Jews, atheists, etc. are not Christian. Are they unqualified for a christian vote? What about Obama and Black Theology? Is THAT Christian?
The US Constitution forbids a religious test. I judge people on their character, not on their nominal religion. Where have I gone wrong?
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The US Constitution forbids a religious test. I judge people on their character, not on their nominal religion. Where have I gone wrong?
Apparently by IGNORING the answers you've already receieved.
Trade that horse in for a new one; as it is dead.
Beating it more will not make it get up.
These folks do NOT run around the WORLD; telling everyone who will give them the time of day, that CHRISTIANITY has been corrupted for a LONG time, and only THEIR men, that listen to gods voices in their heads, have the RESTORED christianity, the way it SHOULD be.
Do YOU really want to vote for someone who believes that?
Why?
Jews, atheists, etc. are not Christian. Are they unqualified for a christian vote? What about Obama and Black Theology? Is THAT Christian?
The US Constitution forbids a religious test. I judge people on their character, not on their nominal religion. Where have I gone wrong
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Jews, atheists, etc. are not Christian. Are they unqualified for a christian vote?
It appears you missed my post Number 174
Speaking for myselfl, if a Jew, atheist, etc. had taken the following oath in a "sacred" religious ceremony consecrating "yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you," to build up a religious organization, only a fool would ignore that when the oath of office for the POTUS would necessarily have to be a secondary vow.
Reading further at this link might give you a better idea of Romney's beliefs and how they would affect his governance from the WH.
The US Constitution forbids a religious test. [Jabba the Nutt, post #198]
Ya know, JTN...I once read an Lds news release that said: The framers of our constitution included a provision that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States” (Article VI). That constitutional principle forbids a religious test as a legal requirement...
This release was part of a discussion by Lds "apostle" Dallin Oaks.
I'm afraid you -- Jabba the Nutt -- like Mr. Oaks...misconstrues candidacy eligibility issues.
All the constitution says is that an eligible candidate cannot be kept from running on religious test grounds.
Ya know, even Mr. Oaks recognized how ludicrous some of his rhetoric was sounding and needed to offset it a bit with a qualifier: "...but it of course leaves citizens free to cast their votes on the basis of any preference they choose."
So...here's a Constitutional "primer" for you so that you don't keep exporting confusion to others:
Point 1- RELIGION: Religion IS NOT a qualification or disqualification for public office; but it's certainly one quality of voter discernment among many others...namely, voting record, present position statements & rampant inconsistency of past position statements, social issues' stances, character, viability, scandal-free past, etc. Article VI, section 3 of the Constitution is aimed at the candidate (must be of a certain age and must have resided in our country for a certain number of years) and the government so that religion does not become a disqualification to keep somebody otherwise eligible for running for public office. Article VI, section 3, is not aimed at the voter. Otherwise, voters would have to 100% disregard character, beliefs, other-dimensionly commitments, and spiritual discernment in weighing candidates.
POINT 2 - ELIGIBILITY: Newsflash!! Every person on the ballot, & even most write-in candidates, have proper "qualifications" to not be excluded from office consideration (based upon religious grounds). Of course, millions of us have the "qualifications" to be considered a potential POTUS & shouldn't be excluded outright from a ballot because of the religion we hold! Nobody has a "Religious Ineligibility" tattoo on their forehead!
POINT 3- BOTTOM LINE: You don't, JTN, really want to join Lds "apostles" in their confusion by emphasizing words similar to "qualifications" (language within the Constitution) with words like "qualities." (language that’s NOT in the Constitution)...do you?
I focus on what voters base their votes on in the "real world": Qualities
Otherwise, Article VI says absolutely...
...nothing...
....nada...
...zero...
...about how voters must weigh--or not weigh--the "qualities" of a candidate...
Nowhere does Article VI say that voters MUST 100% disregard character, beliefs, other-dimensionly commitments, and spiritual discernment in weighing candidates!
"Qualifications" have to do with what gets a man on a ballot. "Qualities" has to do with who gets elected.
(Even 94-95% of Mormons -- most voting upon the fellow personal "qualities" of a candidate like Romney -- can tell you that!)
Btw, JTN, why aren't you lecturing Lds voters if anywhere from 88% to 95% of Mormons will only vote for a Mormon?
(For some reason, the "Article 6 Religious Test" lecture tour never seems to hit Utah, Southwest Wyoming or Southern Idaho)