Posted on 05/27/2012 9:35:33 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Why have Jews pleaded with and angrily demanded that the Mormons stop baptizing them after death?
Why are they outraged at them making Jews like Anne Frank Mormon?
Why did Pope John II rule that Mormons are not Christians, and why does the Catholic church teach that?
What universe do you live in that denies these facts?
No let’s get this straight, I am trying to point out to ignorant purveyors of bigotry that I can as easily defame things about Martin Luther as others can defame early Mormons.
Was Martin Luther not an anti-semite? Did he not see devils? Did he not lead a revolt against the one true Church and the followers of St. Peter, upon who Christ built his Church?
Was there not poligamy in the Old Testament?
I read the article posted, including that Mormons do not accept many of these quotes as true tenets of their faith, but then there is a long explanation of how they must be attributed to Mormonism nonetheless.
How tedious, boring and ignorant. Well, soon we will have a Mormon president. God knows we must replace the current official religion, Socialism and Marxism.
Hey, don’t forget Mormons don’t smoke ... who’s gonna pay for children’s healthcare. They also don’t imbibe caffeine, meaning coffee and colas will be banned. You won’t be able to do the dew.
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Please answer that question, and not go off on some rant.
However, I will answer these ranting questions.
I know little to nothing of Martin Luther.
Polygamy was not practiced in the the Old Testament, unless you do not understand history and then you would think it was.
As far as God knows, for mormons it would be godS know.
Some thoughts about Catholics and their view of mormonISM
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon48.html
Why advise me to avoid religious posts because I disagreed with posters who want to show how awful Mormonism is?
The poster stated his purpose of educating Christian Freepers who feel “impelled” to defend Mormonism so they will know what they are defending.
Is not my religious viewpoint valid? My viewpoint, as one of those to be educated, is that the exercise is flawed.
The poster specifically stated they wish to educate Roman Catholics. I am one. I am not anti Mormon. Further, I have been debating with others who though not Catholic, seek to further educate me that Mormonism is a threat to Catholic Orthodoxy.
The suggestion that I not engage in the discussion puzzles me.
Why do I have to answer your questions? The answer is “no”. I drew an analogy between critics of what early Mormons wrote, with the writings of Martin Luther. The attempt was to show you that one can easily criticize any religion, not necessarily meaning that the modern day practitioners are visited by the sins of their forbearers.
IF we are to hold everyone accountable for the earliest writings of their religion, I respectfully suggest that a Jew, Catholic or Mormon can find serious flaws in the writings and behavior of Martin Luther. It interests me to do so as little as it interests me to worry about intense dissections of Mormon writings.
In summary, I reject the proposition that Mormonism represents a serious threat to traditional Christian religions. Mormons are largely a non factor in America and I see little concern about Mormonism among most traditional Christians.
Further, it seems to me that on a thread that sought to educate me as a Roman Catholic, I am not encountering other RC’s however those not of my religion are lecturing me regarding a non existent threat to Catholicism.
I asked: Are you saying that people who are exposing mormonISM are anti-Semitic?
It, really is simple to answer.
As a side note, I do not understand why you appear to be so focused on Luther.
You’ve really got to be kidding. I answered your question and explained I drew an analogy to Luther by way of example as to how one person can look at another’s religion. IOW religions have glass houses, don’t b so quick to throw stones.
Now I’m “hung up on Luther” when the whole point of this post was a serious hang up with Mormonism.
Further, there is a post here saying that Jews are unhappy with Mormon post death baptisms. Just as I’m being lectured that Catholicism is threatened by Mormonism. There also was a discussion about how the anti Mormon posters view Jews. My suggestion is that fundamentalist christians who are hung up on Mormonism are not going to be supporters of Catholics or Jews. You also have posts here mocking my call for religious freedom and tolerance.
I’m not sure what Catholics are supposd to do about Mormons. My best guess is, nothing.
This is a discussion about mormonISM not Catholicism, so I am unsure why you want it to be.
I do not know a single “fundamentalist” Christan who is not fully supportive of Jews and Israel, so I have know idea where you are getting that information.
It appears that you did answer my question, you appear to believe that people who expose mormonISM are in fact anti-Semitic, at least we now know where you are coming from.
I did not say you where hung up on Luther I said you appear to be focused on him, when the thread is about mormonism.
Now that you have clarified that you beleive people who expose mormonISM are anti-Semitic, our conversation is over.
I really appreciate this post.
Gives me a lot of questions to discuss the next time
the “bike guys” come to my door.
I can invite them in for coffee.
Joseph Smith created a new religion according to Catholics.
It is not a Christian religion, but it’s own unique religion is how they describe it, those aren’t “early writings” or a Mormon disagreeing with how a Mormon church may have strayed over 1300 or 1400 years, they are the religion of Mormonism, and it is not comparable to theological arguments among Christians, such as Father Luther and his church.
The Catholic church recognizes the baptism of a Lutheran or a Methodist because they are all Christians.
This entire Mormon thing is only about 180 years old and as the Pope told us, is not a Christian religion, or a branch of Christianity.
You are Catholic?
Catholics are often defending Mitt Romney and Mormonism here. Although many of the most passionate pro-Mormon Catholics got banned over their overly aggressive defense of Mitt Romney.
In return Mormonism converts many Catholics away from Christianity, supposedly Catholics are among their easiest prey.
I find you irritating.
Look around you.
You are in the Religion Section of FR.
Nearby is Conservative Cavern.
There are many curious artifacts nearby.
A faint whiff of brimstone reachs your nostrils.
Golden Plates have reportedly been seen in another passage.
Many twisty little passages lead from this room - all different.
Many voyagers have embarked from this point.
Choose your path well; as only ONE is reported to bring the sojourner out of the maze safely...
I am not a Mormon, have never been tempted by Mormonism and view Mormonism as a cult, a lot like Scientology in many regards. I am not a Scientologist and have never been tempted by Scientology.
I did grow up in Las Vegas and worked there for many years as a result, over the years, I knew a lot of Mormons. I never saw any evidence they were much different, as a group, than non-Mormons and what differences I did perceive tended to be on the plus-side in terms of work ethic, personal responsibility, and general politeness and ease-of-getting-along with.
Bottom line: despite the doctrine of Mormonism being whacko and non-Christian, the fruits of Mormonism seem to be a higher level of social worth than the average population. From what I’ve seen. In my experience.
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