What this thread proves, once again, is the Catholics are all for Scripture. Until it contradicts tradition. Then they are against Scripture.
The first Christians believed and passed down, “Born Again”
means water Baptism (John Chapter 3).
I have wondered, about the “altar call”, “born again” meaning of accepting Jesus into your heart one time as your personal Lord and Savior and you are saved.
Who came up with this belief? Who first wrote about it? I think it’s Evangelical, doesn’t come from traditional Protestantism.
“What this thread proves, once again, is the Catholics are all for Scripture. Until it contradicts tradition. Then they are against Scripture.”
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Catholics follow the Church, her teaching on Scripture not
private judgment as Protestants do. If you follow the
Church, not one verse in Scripture (OT and NT) contradicts
the other.
Until you accept the Church gave the world the Bible, you
will always be contradicting the Truth. Who can stand
this, it’s basic.
"They" are NEVER against Scripture. It deceitful to continue to present the Catholic view of Tradition and Scripture as an either/or proposition as much of Protestantism sees them.
The acceptance of Scripture does not automatically disqualify Tradition and the acceptance of Tradition does not automatically disqualify Scripture. Catholics believe that both together form the sacred deposit of faith (depositum fidei), and both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence:
CCC80 - "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal." Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age"."
I don't mind explaining and defending the doctrines and dogma's of the Church, but the unrecognizable mischaracterizations posted here only further cloud the issue and insult the truth. I don't expect to convert to anyone to Catholicism, but at least reject the Church for what it really is, not what it is assumed to be.
Peace be with you.