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To: stpio
Martin Luther's opinions are not holy script so they are or may be of historical note but then what? We're not to be followers of men.

“Timothy only knew the written OLD Testament from infancy.”

Not necessarily so as most of Paul's writings were in existence, perhaps two the Gospel accounts, perhaps more, and it was these that Peter included in “Scripture”.

“Jesus teachings were all oral. The Apostles shared them in the same way, passed them on orally. It was later SOME of Jesus’ teachings were written down and compiled...the Bible.”

True, there's no record of Jesus writing anything down, whether others did or not is unclear given the comments Luke made at the beginning of his gospel writing. Clearly Jesus had time enough to say a lot more than what is recorded in the Bible, no question.

But would those words not available to us now change what Jesus taught? Is there some “lost teachings of Christ”?

No. Jesus said the holy spirit would help his disciples recall and understand what he had said so having every word Jesus ever spoke is not necessary to understanding his message.

“You accept part of the Oral Word even though you profess “Bible Alone.”

I don't profess “Bible Alone”. God's spirit is necessary also and that spirit guided which of those oral teachings became part of “all scripture” so we can agree with Paul that “all scripture is inspired of God....”

Just as in Jesus day today there are teachings that were never part of Scripture and are contrary to Scripture, the “gold standard” of truth.

Therein is the value of God's written word, we can have a record to examine as Paul said. “All these things were written....”. (Romans 15:4)

286 posted on 05/23/2012 2:09:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

“Martin Luther’s opinions are not holy script so they are or “MAY BE” of historical note but then what? We’re not to be followers of men.”

“Therein is the value of God’s written word, we can have a record to examine as Paul said. “All these things were written....”. (Romans 15:4)”

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Thanks for your reply. It’s hard to reply to every single
comment.

Where is the assurance in “maybe?”

You say you’re not “Bible Alone” but keep quoting only Scripture not any oral tradition AND using your own private interpretation of the Bible.

Private interpretation of
Scripture is heresy.

The Written Word didn’t drop from Heaven, “Men” could write the words they first spoke orally and passed on assured they were guided by God. So you have misinterpreted, “we’re not to be followers of men.” Without these “men” you wouldn’t have Holy Scripture. Man is involved, this
is God’s way.

How can you say “we have record”...? The Bible isn’t the
complete record of Christ’s teachings. That’s Luther’s
falsehood of “Bible Alone.”


288 posted on 05/23/2012 3:00:42 PM PDT by stpio
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