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To: count-your-change

“Martin Luther’s opinions are not holy script so they are or “MAY BE” of historical note but then what? We’re not to be followers of men.”

“Therein is the value of God’s written word, we can have a record to examine as Paul said. “All these things were written....”. (Romans 15:4)”

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Thanks for your reply. It’s hard to reply to every single
comment.

Where is the assurance in “maybe?”

You say you’re not “Bible Alone” but keep quoting only Scripture not any oral tradition AND using your own private interpretation of the Bible.

Private interpretation of
Scripture is heresy.

The Written Word didn’t drop from Heaven, “Men” could write the words they first spoke orally and passed on assured they were guided by God. So you have misinterpreted, “we’re not to be followers of men.” Without these “men” you wouldn’t have Holy Scripture. Man is involved, this
is God’s way.

How can you say “we have record”...? The Bible isn’t the
complete record of Christ’s teachings. That’s Luther’s
falsehood of “Bible Alone.”


288 posted on 05/23/2012 3:00:42 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio; count-your-change
You say you’re not “Bible Alone” but keep quoting only Scripture not any oral tradition AND using your own private interpretation of the Bible.

If Scripture alone, which has been written down for thousands of years and thereby remains unchanged because people can go back and refer to the originals, is not adequate or reliable, then *Oral Tradition* is nowhere NEAR being reliable. There is simply NO WAY of verifying that change has not crept in.

If Scripture alone isn't infallible enough to depend on, no self-appointed group of men who claim to be the infallible mouthpiece of God hear on earth can be counted on either.

Another question.....

Why the NEED for further revelation?

If it can be supported by Scripture, then it's not needed because we can find it in Scripture.

If it can't be supported by Scripture or contradicts it, then it is to be rejected as a lie, so again, it's not needed or even wanted.

Any *prophecies* are either redundant or lies. So what's the point?

Isn't there enough material in Scripture to keep us busy enough for a lifetime? You want MORE????

From what I've seen, most people don't even manage to be able to handle what we have revealed to us therein. Since when is God going to give someone more revelation when they won't even respond to what they have now?

289 posted on 05/23/2012 3:47:26 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio
“Thanks for your reply. It’s hard to reply to every single
comment.”

I don't to and it can seem rather tedious to try.

“You say you’re not “Bible Alone” but keep quoting only Scripture not any oral tradition AND using your own private interpretation of the Bible”.

We have the model of Christ who over and over again quoted Scripture saying “it is written”. When he did quote oral tradition it was usually to show it contrary to God's word.

Like wise with Paul. Take a concordance and see how often the apostles cited, “it is written” as support and how often they said “it's traditional to do this and such”.

Private interpretation? If what I say agrees with Scripture then there is no private interpretation, only repetition.
Christians are to preach the Word and examine it on their own as did those “noble minded” Beroeans. (Acts 17:11)

“Private interpretation of
Scripture is heresy.”

And whose interpretation is that?

“The Written Word didn’t drop from Heaven, “Men” could write the words they first spoke orally and passed on assured they were guided by God. (I THINK I SAID THAT VERY THING!!) So you have misinterpreted, “we’re not to be followers of men.” (I SAID THAT IN REFERENCE TO MARTIN LUTHER AND WHY HIS OPINION WAS NOT MY GUIDE OR AM I MISINTERPRETATING MY OWN WORDS???) Without these “men” you wouldn’t have Holy Scripture. Man is involved, this
is God’s way.”

” Without these “men” you wouldn’t have Holy Scripture. Man is involved, this
is God’s way.”

Is this private interpretation and thus “heresy”?

“The Bible isn’t the
complete record of Christ’s teachings.”

Just that which is necessary but there is no complete record as the Bible acknowledges.

292 posted on 05/23/2012 3:56:14 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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