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To: count-your-change

“And where does our Lord say that” all of God’s revelation
is written in the Bible?

“IT DOESN’T. What IS said is that all that is necessary to make us perfect, completely equipped for doing God’s will is there (1 Tim. 3:17) and that we can be made holy by means of His word (John 17:17) to the gaining of eternal life. (John 17:3).”

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Hi. Correct, you said it, the BOLDED...Martin Luther’s “Bible Alone” is heresy.

You meant 2 Timothy.

2 Tim 3:15
And because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by the faith which is in Christ Jesus. [16] All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, [17] That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.

Timothy only knew the written OLD Testament from infancy.

Jesus teachings were all oral. The Apostles shared them in the same way, passed them on orally. It was later SOME of Jesus’ teachings were written down and compiled...the Bible.

You accept part of the Oral Word even though you profess “Bible Alone.”


280 posted on 05/23/2012 12:39:40 PM PDT by stpio
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If you reject Christian history how will you ever find the Truth? Any comments on...

“Sadly....

Martin Luther came along in 1517 and threw out 7 books of
the Canon. He was NEVER guided by God. Luther tossed out
the Old Testament Canon which Our Lord and the Apostles
quoted from the most. There were two OT Canons, Jesus
referred to the Alexandrian Canon also known as the Septuagint.”


281 posted on 05/23/2012 12:46:50 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
Martin Luther's opinions are not holy script so they are or may be of historical note but then what? We're not to be followers of men.

“Timothy only knew the written OLD Testament from infancy.”

Not necessarily so as most of Paul's writings were in existence, perhaps two the Gospel accounts, perhaps more, and it was these that Peter included in “Scripture”.

“Jesus teachings were all oral. The Apostles shared them in the same way, passed them on orally. It was later SOME of Jesus’ teachings were written down and compiled...the Bible.”

True, there's no record of Jesus writing anything down, whether others did or not is unclear given the comments Luke made at the beginning of his gospel writing. Clearly Jesus had time enough to say a lot more than what is recorded in the Bible, no question.

But would those words not available to us now change what Jesus taught? Is there some “lost teachings of Christ”?

No. Jesus said the holy spirit would help his disciples recall and understand what he had said so having every word Jesus ever spoke is not necessary to understanding his message.

“You accept part of the Oral Word even though you profess “Bible Alone.”

I don't profess “Bible Alone”. God's spirit is necessary also and that spirit guided which of those oral teachings became part of “all scripture” so we can agree with Paul that “all scripture is inspired of God....”

Just as in Jesus day today there are teachings that were never part of Scripture and are contrary to Scripture, the “gold standard” of truth.

Therein is the value of God's written word, we can have a record to examine as Paul said. “All these things were written....”. (Romans 15:4)

286 posted on 05/23/2012 2:09:38 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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