Evangelicals Becoming Catholic, why?

CatholicConvert.com ^ | May 10, 2011 | Steve Ray

[Scoutdad]

So you equate those people who violate the most basic tenets of scripture and prove with their actions that they have no love for God with many others who, by their lives, show that they have a relationship with Christ? They may not accept the Catholic Church as their authority but that does not mean that they reject God or don’t trust in Christ alone as Lord and Savior.

[daniel1212]

“...there’s a question about whether this canon’’ – the relevant church law – “was ever intended to be used’’ to bring politicians to heel. He thinks not. “I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon was never intended to be used this way.’’ — from the thread [Archbishop] Wuerl: Why I Won’t Deny Pelosi Communion

Albany Bishop Howard Hubbard says it is “unfair and imprudent” to conclude that Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his girlfriend, Sandra Lee, shouldn’t receive Communion simply because they’re living together. — from the thread Bishop: None of your business (Hubbard rejects Catholic expert’s criticism of Gov. Cuomo) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2679260/posts

[Archbishop Timothy Dolan] also does not outright deny the sacrament to dissenting Catholic lawmakers, but he is seen as an outspoken defender of church orthodoxy in a style favored by many theological conservatives.
— from the thread US bishops elect NYC archbishop as head in upset (Catholic bloggers blamed) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711746/posts?page=289#289

[Zionist Conspirator]

Wonder how long they’ll last once they run into the solid wall of higher criticism and evolutionism?

[Salvation]

How do you know what is normal for Catholics? Please don’t throw ALL Catholics into one pot. We are not all voters who vote the way you mention.

Pllllllllease!

[daniel1212]

True, though not as before. http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

[ansel12]

In the context of Pelosi and Biden, it meant that they share the politics and evidently religious views that are the norm for Catholics, meaning the majority of them.

It was a response to post 74.

[2nd amendment mama]

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[boatbums]

They may not accept the Catholic Church as their authority but that does not mean that they reject God or don’t trust in Christ alone as Lord and Savior.

I think there are more than a few Catholics on these forums who sincerely believe that only Roman Catholics can be genuine Christians. For them, the idea that anyone who rejects the Pope and the dictates of the magesterium can possibly be one of Christ's is impossible. But we who DO know the Lord Jesus Christ and follow the teachings God has given us plainly in Holy Scripture understand quite well that we do NOT "make it up as we go along" or make ourselves our own pope, but we love the Lord and live in obedience to our Heavenly Father who indwells us through the Holy Spirit. Jesus said we would know who was genuine by their "fruit" and that fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. No matter what label people want to wear, if those attributes are not present in their life, they're fakes.

[reagandemocrat]

Great advice, Tahoe.

“Christ will forgive this ‘transgression’ as there are many more and many worse that you (and I) have committed.”

And me.

RD

[SuziQ]

I say this knowing full well and good that since I’ve been married to my second wife (and I her second husband) for well over 20 years, that I’ll never be asked to set foot in a Catholic church.

You would always be welcomed in a Catholic Church. Doesn't mean you can take part in the Sacraments, but you're certainly welcome to attend Mass! If you go, engage the priest in conversation; ask him questions. You never know where it might lead.

[Melas]

You would always be welcomed in a Catholic Church. Doesn't mean you can take part in the Sacraments, but you're certainly welcome to attend Mass!

Obviously, I'm not grasping the concept. When I read the above, I read it as, "You're going to burn in Hell, but you're certainly welcome to attend Mass."

[stpio]

I am embarrassed if you already know this...do it.

You can pray a prayer asking Our Lord to come to you in a spiritual communion. Everyone can.

[MarkBsnr]

Very good. My point is that Paul’s Epistles did not ‘have’ to be massaged, and I never said that.

My point in my prior post is that ‘there is no reason to suppose that they weren’t’ [massaged], since there is evidence of multiple versions of each NT book. I strongly suspectthat there were attempts to reconcile each selected NT book to each other by version selection.

How else can you explain multiple versions of each book; further, how else can you explain the selection of which particular version?

[MarkBsnr]

You can pray a prayer asking Our Lord to come to you in a spiritual communion. Everyone can.

I know...

[stpio]

God knows what is going to happen. It’s been awhile, in my reading them, for fourteen years the Catholic messages from Heaven and the Protestant point to..are in preparation for one thing...the Remnant is Roman Catholic. The world is close to the Great Tribulation, the end of the 6th Day.

My advise, pray, repent from the heart and confess your
mortal sins. Believe in the Holy Eucharist and any misunderstandings about the faith will fall away.

God has always desired everyone believe the same. He is
going to help (free will is a gift) make it happen with
the “Warning.”

I put one word in CAPS.

~ ~ ~

God Speaks Will You Listen

11/06/07

...Hence lukewarm Catholics will persecute my faithful Catholics. After the warning, there will only be one church. All Protestant denominations will have no reason to exist. For all Protestants will see the truth in my Catholic Church. Those Protestants who in their pride reject my truth, will become apostate and persecute my true Catholics. Many Protestants will enter my church because of the warning. The ungodly will persecute my faithful remnant because the ungodly rejected my mercy. A fierce persecution will rage like a fire in certain parts of your world. Europe, North America, and Latin America will persecute my faithful severely. My son, the largest number of converts will come from the pagan religions. Many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and tribal peoples will accept my mercy and truth because of the warning. My church will experience a large amount of growth in those areas. I will need my faithful to teach these converts. Many miracles will take place at this time. Bilocation and other miracles assisted by my angels will occur. My faithful may be teaching in different areas of the world. After the warning, there will only be a short time given to mankind to repent. If no repentance is done, I will allow Satan and the antichrist to chastise a sinful generation. At this time, many faithful will be: called home, persecuted, martyred, and taken to my refuges. Only those who are not spiritual babies with my divine life residing in their souls will endure those days and enter my era of peace. My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not

progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does not partake of my Eucharist REMAINS a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the antichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide...

http://wwwgodspeakswillyoulisten.org/

[johngrace]

Oh! Danny " data dumper"

I go by my own experiences just so you know.

The Experience I saw on this Easter season made me look in surprise. There were 100 to 150 new converts in the front roped off area. Then they were introduced then the full bible reading mass continued.

Now that was just one service for the day. There are many in a Sunday.

In all of my years of being Catholic going to mass never have I seen so many at an individual church.

Now I have talked to other Catholics. The numbers are up at a large amount of churches.

Just so you know with that "data dump" you like to do.

I will go by my experiences before sitting down and reading second or third hand sources. Of course it's in my humble opinion. But truly amazing in my eyes.

Praise Jesus Christ to you! Freeper Cheers!

[johngrace]

Hi stpio- This visions Or prophecies are your own? The visions or prophecies line up with what some of the Catholic Saints have predicted. What I find interesting is that the book of Daniel intrepretation with the future abomination in these prophecies.

[NELSON111]

True...and SAD isn't it. I've preached those Barna stats. I've SCREAMED those Barna Stats. I've asked from the pulpit how in the WORLD 48% of evangelicals can affirm the Bible as literally true...and 30% (trying to remember an old sermon) NOT affirm a real Satan.

And as bad as we have it, Catholics are WAY worse. But they aren't my concern. That's not my house so there are no pointing fingers here. I'll get my house in order then worry about others. As I explain in my sermons "The Great What?" and "Return to Your First Love," our problem is we've replaced apologetics and theology with programs...nice stage performances...bells and whistles.

And we want to know why we have problems in the church.

[presently no screen name]

Yes! It is all about what Jesus DID at the cross It is Finished, and not our attempt to 'be holy' (religious). He does His work through us being 'in Him'.

Genesis 2:2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.

Hebrews 4:4" For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: "And on the seventh day God rested from all his work."

Hebrews 4:9 "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;"

Hebrews 4:10 "for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His".

[presently no screen name]

Paul himself was a “pushy guy with a chip on his shoulder”, and a large “inferiority complex a mile wide,”

Well, God thought he was just perfect for spreading the Good News, The Gospel - He could have picked anyone and He picked Paul. He knew his heart, his undying obedience and unending search for Truth and Gospel first. So much for what 'man thinks'.

When Mark gets shipwrecked, beaten and left for dead and thrown in jail for the Gospel sake - perhaps he has earned the right to speak about an inferiority complex and one being pushy. Until then..

Matt 23:28
"Outwardly you look like righteous people, but inwardly your hearts are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness."