Posted on 04/16/2012 4:21:51 PM PDT by Salvation
Exactly! Right down to their dress style, bow to man and kiss the ring!
Jesus is the Logos. That does not translate simply as "word" or even words. He is so very much more than what you can glean from carefully selected versus of St. Paul.
What ever your motivation, let your actions be done in love. If your will is to do that of the Holy Spirit ensure that the Fruit of the Spirit is clearly evident in it.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law." - Gal 5:22-23
"The Excellence of Love"
"If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing."
"Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
"Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love." - 1 Corinth 13
There is NOTHING " simply " when speaking of JESUS!
p>Don't quote Scripture unless it REIGNS with you because that's only 'using' it for your agenda!
Now back to the response that seemed to ruffle your feathers.
Love them enough to tell them the TRUTH. GOD'S WORD ALONE REIGNS, JESUS IS THE WORD
I have posted on FR in the past, but it has been quite a while. Left with no choice for POTUS but a Muslim, a Mormon, a Catholic, or an apostate Protestant, I haven’t had much enthusiasm for things political. A depressing state of affairs, the way I see it.
Then the FR religious forum with its total domination of Catholic themed threads, doesn’t help much. For a conservative site, its disproportionate flood of RC threads certainly doesn’t reflect the truth. Conservative Protestants outnumber by far in this country the paltry percentage of conservative Catholics.
So, yes, I haven’t made FR posts in a while. On this thread, however, for what its worth, I threw in my two cents.
I have to tell this because I am so proud of our town.
There is a well known and well respected and loved man who is dying of prostate cancer and he had been in Chicago receiving some new treatment that didn’t work and he doesn’t have long to live. I think he’s only about 55.
His wife was home because she has osteoporosis and had broken her pelvis. She couldn’t get there to be with him as he is dying and they couldn’t afford to fly him home for 17K on a medi-flight. Our home town bank immediately gave them a loan and put out the SOS for donations and raised 22K in 1 1/2 hours.
Now for the rest of the story. He got home Monday. He was raised Catholic and became Baptist about 20 years ago. Yesterday he called for the priest to come and give him Last Rites. I am sure that I’m not the only one who asked God to give him that gift but God answered ASAP.
I have to tell this because I am so proud of our town.
There is a well known and well respected and loved man who is dying of prostate cancer and he had been in Chicago receiving some new treatment that didn’t work and he doesn’t have long to live. I think he’s only about 55.
His wife was home because she has osteoporosis and had broken her pelvis. She couldn’t get there to be with him as he is dying and they couldn’t afford to fly him home for 17K on a medi-flight. Our home town bank immediately gave them a loan and put out the SOS for donations and raised 22K in 1 1/2 hours.
Now for the rest of the story. He got home Monday. He was raised Catholic and became Baptist about 20 years ago. Yesterday he called for the priest to come and give him Last Rites. I am sure that I’m not the only one who asked God to give him that gift but God answered ASAP.
That thou sayest is true. But as the Empire declines, the focus must be on the body of Christ being the alternative, and unlike the world.
I’m not surprised at what this apostate Baptist you mentioned has done. Signs of these apostate times. Enough to make fire brand stalwarts like John Wycliffe, the Anabaptists, John Huss, John Knox, and Ian Paisley, turn over in their graves.
A great many of these Baptists and Evangelicals wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the face. Sad to say, most of what is preached in Protestant pulpits nowadays is milk toast.
Jesus reigns with me, Scripture is but a reflection of Him. I will continue to quote that reflection everytime it is relevant and profitable, thank you.
"Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. 2 Timothy 2:22-26
Even now, the Catholic population is growing in the USA and it is not as paltry as you say.
Jesus is The Word. You can't separate what is ONE.
Scripture is but a reflection of Him
GOD'S WORD is NOT a reflection! Reflections aren't alive and don't have power. Don't think you can EVER reduce it away. It ALWAYS was and will ALWAYS will be!
"For the Word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires".
**And while the RC has great liberty to interpret Scripture**
We are not YOPIOS critters, sorry.
The Rites of the Catholic Church [Catholic Caucus]
One and Many Churches (origins of the Church)
THE RITES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH -- There are many!
(Cardinal) Newman on Rites and Ceremonies
This post must come from a Proetestant or other denominational website, for it, too, uses ‘RCC’.
Unlelarned blokes aren’t they?
This Roman Empire thing is hilarious. the Romans killed Christ for the Jews.
In no way is the Catholic Church any part, or was it any part of roman government. Under Roman government, Catholics were killed by Romans, no less.
What a great testimony and story.
Peole on their deathbeds, somehow recognize their mistakes and call for the priest.
Another person saved!
Wrong. Everyone that ever lived did - He died for all because all need salvation. The Romans weren't doing any favors for the Jews - how wrong to even repeat that deception.
The Romans couldn't do squat to JESUS.. . "Do you think I cannot call on My Father, and HE will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels?" Matt 26:53
You seem to forget JESUS came, specifically, to die for all.
Then you must have closed your eyes when Catholics contrive to support their traditions, in which the parameters of Rome, which rarely has infallible interpreted verses (how many being a matter of interpretation), yet allows such things as one RC contending that Ps. 93:1 teaches geocentrism and another heliocentrism, or that no one else but Jesus and Mary are said to be “highly favored,” “full of grace,” (Lk. 1:28) while another sees that in Acts 6:8; (cf. Eph. 1:6), or that 1Cor. 3 is speaking about purgatory, and another only uses it to affirm that fire consumes, or for one to contend that Rv. 12 cannot be speaking about Israel and another believe it is (at least primarily) etc.
And the lack of comprehensiveness or perspicuity of the magisterium not only allows disagreement about Scripture, but about what certain teachings of the magisterium mean, such as whether Lumen Gentium means sincere former RCs like myself can be saved outside formal submission to Catholicism, as well as multitudes more things that are not clear or not officially addressed.
And you yourself provided an example of this, as the “great liberty to interpret Scripture” (even with a magisterium) comes from a far more noted apologist than yourself:
“The liberty of the Scripture interpreter remains extensive. Taking due consideration of the factors that influence proper exegesis, the Catholic Bible interpreter has the liberty to adopt any interpretation of a passage that is not excluded with certainty by other passages of Scripture, by the judgment of the magisterium, by the Church Fathers, or by the analogy of faith. That is a great deal of liberty, as only a few interpretations will be excluded with certainty by any of the four factors circumscribing the interpreter’s liberty” Jimmy Akin,, Catholic Answers (http://archive.catholic.com/thisrock/2001/0101bt.asp)
Meanwhile, rather than a free for all, evangelical-type denominations and churches for whom Scripture is paramount typically have their own magisterium (as does Rome) and overall affirm the Apostle’s Creed and or Scripturally substantiated conflating statements defining who God is and what Christ did and related basic truths, especially the primacy of Scripture and salvation by grace to save the damned and destitute sinners, (vs. some hope in earned credits and or the power of the church), under the premise that Scripture is infallible, and which magisterium typically requires assent of these truths by members.
And which common consent is manifest, among other ways, in a shared contention against those who deny these common essentials (“cults”), as well as against certain traditions of Rome.
These evans also manifest a great degree of transdenominational fellowship, but do differ in many things and have formal divisions, but so does Catholicism, the differences being a matter of degrees, while under sola ecclesia is seen the greatest aberrations, as this is what cults effectively operate under (the “Living prophet” and the WTS being as infallible popes).
The second apparently comes from an Orthodox man. As for as RC, as said, it is often necessary to specify. Do you object to any use of term “Roman church?”
Pope Boniface VIII:
“It is I who am Caesar; the Sovereign Pontiff is the only King of the Romans”, as he rode thru the city, carrying sword, globe and sceptre. (”Rome and its story”, p. 241, by Welbore St. Clair Baddeley, Lina Duff Gordon)
“To the succession of the Caesars came the succession of the Pontiffs in Rome. When Constantine left Rome, he gave his seat to the Pontiff.” – Lablanca, Professor of History, University of Rome.
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