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To: for-q-clinton

You wrote:

“From a purely logical standpoint you made my point for me.”

Not even remotely. You never actually studied logic did you?

“1) Obviously we don’t think they have a leg to stand on, yet they do it anyway. Kind of like this post...where does it say in the Bible that these specific items are holy and those that use them in the way they are used should be ran out of town?”

Please tell me from where in the Bible we get the phrase “Holy Bible”. Can you do that? Since when must a thing be mentioned in the Bible to be holy?

“Should we be more concerned with their souls vice what they are doing with our idols?”

There are no idols involved. No idols were mentioned, described, or photographed. Why are you essentially inventing something that isn’t there?

“2) Ah, but who owns them now? The Catholic church should keep control of their idols more closely, less they fall into other’s hands.”

What idols? The Catholic Church has none. Never did. Also, if this is stolen property, and it might be, how can you blame the victim for the theft? And again, what idols?

“If these are truly the churches idols they should be able to sue and get them back.”

Again, what idols? No idols are mentioned and the Catholic Church has never had any. why are you essentially making things up out of thin air? If you have to make things up - things not remotely mentioned in the article - doesn’t that automatically suggest you have no argument worth noting?

“3) Ok so you wouldn’t do this, but these people are. As I said the conversation should be about their souls and praying for them not about idols of the church.”

Again, there are no idols involved. How can someone who makes things up even consider to have a conversation about the state of someone else’s soul?


29 posted on 03/26/2012 5:12:10 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I need to be careful as this was started in a news section but has been moved to religion. So I don’t want to violate the rules of this forum.

But clearly the way some are acting on this thread reminds me of how muslims act when we burn a Koran. Yet we act like what’s the big deal...same should apply here. It’s not like they are killing God—they may be doing something sacrilegious to you; however, who cares. If the Catholic church thought it was critical they could excommunicate them—if they are catholic.

Once again this is a big to do about nothing. Once the items are no longer used in service and are sold in the open market then they are no longer meaningful for spiritual purposes (unless they are re-purposed for such things).

Is a cross that gets melted down and remade into something else a violation of your church? What if it gets made into a little buddah—is it now bad? What if a buddah is melted and made into a cross? Or what happens to holy water that evaporates and eventually falls to the earth as rain?


31 posted on 03/26/2012 7:21:02 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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