There are assemblies in which these standards are observed. In them both the men, women, and children seem to me to exhibit a greater maturity. This is the kind of church I go to, and prefer, as they seem more willing to take Biblical instruction. This does not seem to produce robots -- it fosters the growth of thoughtful, effective disciples who take their relationship with The King quite seriously.
The silence phase really seems to apply when the assembly is in session at The Lord's pleasure, not necessarily before or after. But I suppose you know that, and perhaps find it difficult to arrive at a creative acceptance of the admonition offered by The Holy Spirit.
What the ekklesia is, is citizens of a kingdom called out, summoned by the king to deliberate on community issues. Here one might note that singing is recommended and approved for all, with public prayer and addresses from the sacred desk or from the floor being within the purview not merely of a pastor, but of all qualified men. What this indicates is that no excuse is accepted for the men to abdicate their spiritual responsibilities to go hunting or fishing, etc; thus relegating religious matters to the distaff side.
Women have a very great responsibility in instructing other, especially younger women, in honoring their Biblical expectations and duties that fall outside of the men's experience. This would be done outside the greater, full public assembly. For how is a man supposed to show a woman how to love her husband? He can't, really. On the other hand, the occasion to congregate, to publicly worship, and to learn and teach Bible doctrines is reserved to the Lord's expectations of the leadership of men.
But the bottom line of your concern is that there are a couple of questions and an observation to contend with:
(1) How much of Biblical truth is one going to accept and how much of the world's practices is one going to reject?
(2) When, as an example, did Mother Eve demonstrate that she was in the transgression -- was it when her lips started moving?
(3) Shouldn't her proper reaction have been to call her husband to deal with the Deceiver?
With full respect --
IOW, no, the women are not permitted to speak at all inside the church and it sounds like singing is out, too
This does not seem to produce robots -- it fosters the growth of thoughtful, effective disciples who take their relationship with The King quite seriously.
A Stepford church....
So those who don't do it your way are not spiritually mature and don't take their relationship with the Lord seriously? How legalistic.
And how wrong you are.
The silence phase really seems to apply when the assembly is in session at The Lord's pleasure, not necessarily before or after. But I suppose you know that, and perhaps find it difficult to arrive at a creative acceptance of the admonition offered by The Holy Spirit.
Actually, church would be better off if everyone toned it down some, but since Scripture is silent on when the period of silence is to be observed, then restricting it to just worship is a matter of YOUR church's interpretation, which is no different than another church *allowing* women to speak during the services, and by that I mean simply utter ANY words, not preaching speaking.
Here one might note that singing is recommended and approved for all, with public prayer and addresses from the sacred desk or from the floor being within the purview not merely of a pastor, but of all qualified men.
If Scripture says women are to be silent in churches, where is the chapter and verse exemption for singing?
(1) How much of Biblical truth is one going to accept and how much of the world's practices is one going to reject?
Silence is silence. I see no Scriptural exemptions of the kind your assembly permits. After all, how much of Biblical truth is one going to accept and how much of the world's practices is one going to reject?
(2) When, as an example, did Mother Eve demonstrate that she was in the transgression -- was it when her lips started moving?
Sin entered the world through Adam. It wasn't until HE ate that the eyes of both of them were opened.
(3) Shouldn't her proper reaction have been to call her husband to deal with the Deceiver?
Excuse me? *Call* her husband??? Do you not know your Scripture? Why would she need to call him when he stood there and WATCHED her eat? Where was that male leadership when she ate? Where was that male leadership when Adam heard her misquote the one verse of Scripture God Himself told him?
Genesis3:6-7 6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.
Eve was deceived. Adam ate deliberately with the full knowledge of the words of God Himself in his mind.
Shouldn't Adam's proper reaction to be to protect his wife and rebuke the serpent himself and correct her misquote of what God told him? And instead he watches her eat and then eats himself. I guess when she didn't fall over dead, he thought it was OK. Nice guy. Let his wife be the guinea pig.