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Yeah, yeah - some people have tried to use the fact that Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletum, to teach that healing is not for everyone. The reasoning is that if Paul left Trophimus sick instead of healing him, then that shows that God doesn't always want to heal us. After all, this was the mighty Apostle Paul, and if his associate wasn't healed then why do we think we can always be healed?

First, it is wrong to think that someone can be healed solely on the faith of another. Jesus couldn't heal all those He wanted to heal in His hometown of Nazareth Mark 6:5-6 because of their unbelief Matt 13:58, not His.

Also, it sometimes takes time to receive a healing. This verse didn't say that Trophimus stayed sick. He may have but he may have just had a little difficulty receiving his healing and Paul didn't have time to wait on the manifestation. It's possible that Trophimus was healed and caught up with Paul or ministered in some other way.

It's also possible that Trophimus just quit believing God so Paul decided to leave him there sick. There are other possibilities, but there is no reason to interpret Paul leaving Trophimus sick at Miletum, as some indication that God doesn't want us to be healed. You can, though, if it makes you feel better.

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pnsn, you are quickly twisting yourself into a pretzel of explanations to try to explain away the clear meaning of God’s word. Very close to defending something that is indefensible. Prayerfully study God’s word of truth.

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So...Paul's infirmity wasn't "illness". And Trophimus' healing may not have been an "immediate healing", but one that "took some time". Or Paul "didn't have time to wait on the manifestation". Or perhaps "Trophimus just quit believing God" so "Paul, (whose infirmity "wasn't illness) just decided to leave him there". Maybe to check on Timothy to see if his thorn in the stomach had gotten better...

CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE? Making up stories to "prove" your point. There was another FReeper who recently went through this. "Maybe it was this, or maybe it was that. But it CERTAINLY wasn't what God said it was. Because that doesn't match what I believe."

Deny the truth and defend the deceit. It seems to be the new craze with some.

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Yeah, yeah - some people have tried to use the fact that Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletum, to teach that healing is not for everyone.

Sorry that doesn't fit in with your theology but facts are facts.

Your litany of excuses as to why that is the case is without basis.

It take s time to be healed, eh? And Jesus did how many delayed healings?

And how long do I have to wait? Ten years? Twenty years? Going on thirty years now.....?

I've been prayed for and anointed with oil time without count. I've done it the James way and the pentecostal faith healer way, and nothing.....

So then what? It all gets back to it being my fault because my faith is "inadequate".

Well, there's that judgment and condemnation again, more lies of the enemy from the lips of those who claim to be my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Nice.