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To: Politicalmom

It seems that much of Pentecostalism ignores the instructions given on how to use the gifts in 1 Corinthians 14.

I haven’t really paid attention in church as to whether women do it more or men but based on my recollection, it is women.

Tongues is a sign to UNbelievers, not believers. You’re right that its current use in churches is unScriptural.

My contention with these incidents is that if something spoken in tongues if not in Scripture or can’t be supported by Scripture, then it is to be rejected as it has no Scriptural basis.

If it IS found in Scripture, then it’s already there and is redundant and so isn’t necessary.

We don’t need any more *new* revelation. We need people who are going to walk out the revelation they have already been given. Once we’re obedient to what we’ve been shown so far, God will take us further.

Back in June I was filled with the Holy Spirit, not in church, I didn’t fall down, and didn’t speak in tongues. Didn’t need to to tell me that was from God. But my life hasn’t been the same since and that has been the only outward manifestation of that filling.

And you know what? The individualist within doesn’t WANT to speak in tongues; simply because everyone else is doing it. If God chooses to ever give me that gift, then I won’t argue. If someone else rags on me about *needing to* speak in tongues, watch how fast I will dig my heels in.


70 posted on 02/15/2012 10:55:07 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

‘Careful Mildred,’

“individualism”

and perverse stubbornness are not always that far apart.

LUB, however.


74 posted on 02/15/2012 11:33:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom; Quix; pastorbillrandles
I haven’t really paid attention in church as to whether women do it more or men but based on my recollection, it is women.

- Do women speak anything in the assembly, let alone tongues?

1Co 14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

- Are women teachers of doctrine any place, let alone in the assembly (or on the internet)? (There is no feminine Greek word for teachers of doctrine. Not a NT concept.)

1Ti 2:11-14 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

- Does a woman pray or prophesy anywhere without being covered to demonstrate her submission in authority under God, Christ, and the man -- as viewed by humans and good/bad angels (even on the internet)?(Her hair is as a garment, not as her cover/badge of submission to spiritual authority)

1Co 11:5-6 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

- Are women ever instructors? Sophronizers of young women (not didaskaloi)? Personified examples of good things (adjective)?

Tit 2:3-5 The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.

Just a few notes -- God's spiritual gift of gender and maturity in the Company of the Committed --

82 posted on 02/16/2012 5:16:23 AM PST by imardmd1 (Jude 3c "... earnestly contend for The Faith which was once delivered to the saints.")
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