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To: Quix; boatbums
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Quix, how many times do we need to say that we DO understand what you're getting at but don't agree with it.

Is the only way we can convince you that we understand what you're saying is to agree with you? Does our disagreement tell you that we don't understand? Really?

Is agreeing with you really the only way to convince you that we understand what you're saying? Are you that convinced that you are right?

Could you even entertain the notion that you might be wrong? We've provided plenty of Scripture for you to use in that consideration. Or are you so hung up on signs and gifts and healing and tongues that you can't let go?

What's your faith in Quix? Christ or signs?

696 posted on 02/29/2012 4:22:15 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; presently no screen name
How many times do I have to say . . .

I don't recall seeing a single shred of evidence that y'all have understood a single sentence of what I've written--particularly about where I have disagreed but 97% mostly also where I've agreed.

Fantasies about such are not reality.

The issue is not the disagreement.

The issue is the seemingly blanket stonewalling abject refusal to seemingly even let some simple language register on y'all's consciousness.

This sentence is yet more PROOF

that I've not been understood a microgram's worth:

What's your faith in Quix? Christ or signs?

It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.
It's NOT about disagreement.

I'm NOT that stupid a psychologist. I know y'all fairly well. I wouldn't predict that y'all would change toward agreement with me short of a burning bush visitation by God Almighty forcefully rewiring y'all's synapses. I'm not so ignorant as to EXPECT a shred of agreement.

I've not expected any such on the whole thread. The MOST I've had fantasies about was that there MIGHT be 1-3% better communication this thread than the last similar exercises in abject futility. Now THAT I was very stupid to hope for.

697 posted on 02/29/2012 4:33:04 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: metmom; boatbums; Quix; caww; CynicalBear; presently no screen name
Are you interested in all in Scripture and time lines in the Bible, Quix? Especially the Book of Acts, where the transition from law to grace, from a kingdom of believers (Israel) to a body of believers (the Church the body of Christ), from the earthly to the heavenly, from the old to the new, takes place?

Because, if you are at all interested in God's timetable for man, then the Scriptures give you the answers you are fighting so hard against. If you are just interested in signs, wonders and miracles, then all the Scriptures in the world won't be enough to PROVE to you that there was a reason for them and there will be a reason for them again, but during this age of grace, they have been withdrawn. He is not seeking an earthly kingdom of believers right now. He is seeking a body of believers right now. Who are blessed with all spiritual blessings IN HEAVENLY PLACES. Earthly signs, wonders and miracles are for an earthly people. Israel. They are His prophesied earthly kingdom of priests and will be a blessing to all nations, when He returns and sets up His kingdom on this earth. If they are temporarily blinded and set aside, then what about those miracles, signs, and wonders for them? Do you think God just transfered them to the body of Christ? For what reason? Really. For what reason would He do that? We are to "set our affection on things which are ABOVE, NOT on things on THE EARTH." Col. 3:1,2. Things on the earth would be miracles, signs and wonders. Meant for an earthly people who must endure to the end to go into the Kingdom.

Do you think you will be going through the tribulation and need those things in order to endure to the end?

And lest you believe that God is desiring us to spend our time working on this world to make it fit for Christ's return, let me remind you of this Scripture. "Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this PRESENT EVIL WORLD, according TO THE WILL OF GOD and our Father."(Gal.1:4)

Notice, Paul did NOT say that God has commanded us to FIX this present evil world, or that we have been given power to transform this present evil world. Only that He will DELIVER us from this present evil world.

Our job is to preach the gospel of the grace of God in this present evil world. To be amassadors for Christ, preaching the reconciliation of God and man through the finished work of Christ. And also to reprove, rebuke and exhort with all longsuffering and DOCTRINE. So that when the truth starts going off the rails, it can be restored, WITH SCRIPTURE, so we can get on with our job.

698 posted on 02/29/2012 4:58:04 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: metmom; Quix
What's your faith in Quix? Christ or signs?

"For the Benny Hinn followers ask for signs, and the Dutch Reformed seek after wisdom, but we preach Free Republic, a stumbling block to the RINOS and a ZOT to the liberals..."

Cheers!

720 posted on 02/29/2012 8:54:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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