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To: pastorbillrandles

Uhhhhhhhh . . .

there was in the Old Testament . . . some folks who tossed a dead man’s body into a grave of a prophet.

When the new dead body touched the prophet’s bones, the newly dead came back to life.

Nonsense is nonsense.

However, none of us have it all figured out.

The errors and assists to hell in the non-charismatic, non-Pentecostal churches may be less obvious, less flashy, less garish . . .

However, they are AT LEAST

AS DEADLY.

And, as varied and plentiful.


5 posted on 02/14/2012 4:35:50 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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Ping to OP and my response at

#5


6 posted on 02/14/2012 4:37:32 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Quix you are right, there are many things we don’t understand, and e don’t have it all figured out. However please consider;

* The men who threw the body into Elisha’s tomb, weren’t seeking God or His anointing. It was a miracle!

* We are not told that pilgrims went to Elisha’s tomb or any other of the known burial sites of God’s servants, after the miracle in 2 Kings. People then would have understood such as an idolatrous practice.

* True also that the “non charismatic” world equally has errors. I think the whole subject of the apostasy is worth discussing, to “snatch some from the fire” and that we might be prepared for Jesus
‘ coming.

* I believe in the baptism of the Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit. I believe Satan has raised up Hinn, Crowder and Bentley to discredit the Spiritual gifts, The problem is that too much of the Charismatic World accepts or at least refuses to discern these charlatons and buffoons.


8 posted on 02/14/2012 4:49:19 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: Quix; pastorbillrandles

The anointing for ministry comes from the Holy Spirit.

Anything anyone contracts or inherits from a dead person is not Him.

I don’t think there’s any comparison between Elijah or Elisha and those high profile charasmatic leaders of today who don’t have half the integrity of those OT prophets.

I’m with pbr on this one. I believe in the baptism of the Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit. I also believe that a lot of error and deception has crept into the Pentecostal movement with it’s emphasis on the gifts, flashy, showy, name it and claim it theology.

People are too busy seeking the Spirit, the power, the healing, tongues, whatever manifestation du jour they hear about and not seeking Christ alone, the author and finisher of our faith.

The Holy Spirit’s job is to point to Christ and lift Him up. People are no longer looking to Jesus but the Spirit.

When I was in church Sunday, the pastor was praying that the Holy Spirit would come and be with us, that He was *invited* etc. No mention of Jesus, who said, where two of three are gathered together, there I am in the midst.

The gifts and manifestations can be faked or counterfeited.

The fruit of the Spirit and Christlikeness can’t.


19 posted on 02/14/2012 6:35:45 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Quix

Good points, Quix.


71 posted on 02/15/2012 10:59:10 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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