Mitt's Mormon Army: How It Works

BuzzFeed ^ | February 3, 2012 | McKay Coppins

[reaganaut]

Thanks E, for your voice of reason.

[reaganaut]

The rest of you should too by affirming the 1st Amendment. I absolutely and resolutely support the right of Mormon (or any other religion) candidates to run for office. I don’t care what crazy religious beliefs they may have - I support their right to run for office, and/or vote any way they wish, for whatever reason.

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Hogwash. You have been on here claiming we are unamerican for refusing to vote for Romney for whatever reason we choose.

No one here has said Mormons can’t RUN, but we do not have to discount or ignore their religion as a factor in our voting.

You are the only one on here claiming that, where is your support. There are still plenty of us on here who don’t support Romney.

[reaganaut]

You’ll probably need to help. These folks are not very cerebral - They’ve been caught on the outside of the Constitution

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ROFL. This from a guy who doesn’t even understand what the Constitution says.

So, how are we outside the Constitution? Prove it . You keep making this same asinine statement when it simply is not true and our posts have proved you wrong.

[reaganaut]

It is your intolerant friends who ignore the Constitution.

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No, it is you who is reading into the Constitution something that isn’t there, you twit.

Again, show me where anyone has said Mormons (or any other religion) cannot run for office?

Give me the links. You keep claiming my friends have, no they have not.

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it?

[reaganaut]

They didn’t say they couldn’t RUN. They asked you if you would WANT them to run. Would you vote for them?

[Elsie]

What you actually need to show, want to show, but can never show, is that evil, bigotry, or socks and sandals for that matter are more prevalent among Mormons than among any other religious group.

It needs more straw.

I'll show simply that MORMONism is a HERESY that has stolen from Christianity.

Ineed to chase no red herrings.

[sand lake bar]

I don’t believe in heresy, at least not in the way you do. But if it does exist in the sense in which you mean it, I’d say it’s for God to sort it all out, not man. And in case you were thinking of going there, I do not believe the Bible to be the literal word of God.

[ejonesie22]

Always a joy dealing with the folks who posses a self evaluation of their own knowledge and expertise that far exceeds the available data...

[MarkBsnr]

I don’t believe in heresy, at least not in the way you do. But if it does exist in the sense in which you mean it, I’d say it’s for God to sort it all out, not man. And in case you were thinking of going there, I do not believe the Bible to be the literal word of God.

Exodus 24 indicates that God dictated the Torah to Moses. The rest of the Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit to the various authors.

However, one must realize that there is no issue or struggle with interpretation now that the Church Fathers did not wrestle with more than a thousand years and some approaching two thousand years ago.

There is only one modern theologian of any note that could possibly compare with, for example, St. John of Damascus, in my opinion.

[MarkBsnr]

I'll show simply that MORMONism is a HERESY that has stolen from Christianity.

Indeed it is. Joseph Smith, in his drug visions, saw wondrous things and created a theology which suited his finances, his desire for power and his lust for women.

Just as Islam is a Judeo/Christian (some would argue more Christian than Jewish) heresy, so is the Mormon faith. Swedenborgianism came after, although it is very much a heresy, does not rankle quite as much. The Jehovah's Witnesses do compete, however.

[Godzilla]

Always a joy dealing with the folks who posses a self evaluation of their own knowledge and expertise that far exceeds the available data...

Don't 'cha just hate it when the battery for the slide-rule dies

[reaganaut]

LOL. I’m tempted to make that a tagline.

[MarkBsnr]

Don't 'cha just hate it when the battery for the slide-rule dies

I think it involves the substitution for timothy hay from alfalfa.

[Elsie]

And in case you were thinking of going there, I do not believe the Bible to be the literal word of God.

Your loss.

YES; I AM 'going there'!

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Acts 18:11
    So Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God.

 

 

 

 

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[Elsie]

I don’t believe in heresy, at least not in the way you do.

Then perhaps YOUR definition is in the dictionary?

[Elsie]

Ahhh!

Someone ELSE knows Goat Speak!

[sand lake bar]

All those Bible dudes were certainly inspired by their beliefs. But I do not believe their beliefs represent the literal word of God. So you’ll understand how amused I am by those who claim to know what is in His heart.

[MarkBsnr]

All those Bible dudes were certainly inspired by their beliefs. But I do not believe their beliefs represent the literal word of God. So you’ll understand how amused I am by those who claim to know what is in His heart.

When the quartet of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John quote Jesus, they are lying? Is this for your amusement or ours?

[sand lake bar]

My belief is that they were writing stories, loosely based on facts, rich in metaphor, written in a style of the times. You are welcome to believe otherwise, of course.

[Elsie]

But I do not believe their beliefs represent the literal word of God.

Do you 'believe' that YOUR 'beliefs' are inspired by GOD?