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To: marbren
Anyone who denies any part of Scripture, and certainly anyone who denies that the Holy Spirit inspired every single word in Scripture, has denied the Person of Jesus Christ and is not saved and will go through the Tribulation.

No true believer in Christ, who was saved only because of the Holy Scriptures and the divinely inspired words in those Scriptures, will ever deny any part of that Scripture.

Denial of Scripture comes from one source and one source only - the same source who asked Eve, "did God really say" - and has repackaged that lie down through the millennia to fit any given situation to make people doubt God and His word and spend eternity in hell. The lie has been packaged for this thread as a denial of the divine inspiration of the Scriptures, which, of course, makes the Bible irrelevant, and there are some who will read that and believe it and heave a sigh of relief that the Bible was written by men and therefore they have nothing to worry about.

It's a dangerous game to play, this denial of what God has done and the attempt to rob Him of His glory and the credit that is due Him - but if God never really said what He said He said, then what is there to get upset about?

429 posted on 02/01/2012 3:24:10 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; marbren
I want to share something with you both that I came across in 1 Peter. You both know that I believe that Hebrews through Revelation were inspired by the Holy Spirit for those tribulation saints going through the last days and enduring to the end for Christ's return to set up His Kingdom. We've talked before about the Book of Hebrews being written to THE HEBREWS. And James being written to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. Both 1 and 2 Peter are written to those going through the "last time" 1 Peter 1:5, "the revelation of Jesus Christ"(v.13); "these last times for you" (v.20). And on and on, throughout his writings.

You both also know that I believe Ephesians 2:7-13 shows us Dispensations. "Time Past", "But Now" and "The Ages to Come". And that we are in the "But Now" of God's plan, the dispensation of the grace of God.

But this is very interesting in 1 Peter 2:9,10."But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy NATION, a peculiar people: that ye should shew forth the praises of him who HATH CALLED YOU OUT OF DARKNESS INTO HIS MARVELOUS LIGHT; Which IN TIME PAST were NOT A PEOPLE, but ARE NOW the people of God; which had not obtained mercy, but NOW HAVE OBTAINED MERCY."

Notice that Peter speaks of "TIME PAST" and "BUT NOW". The question is, when was Israel in darkness, not God's people (Lo Ammi), and without mercy?

Do you see what I'm getting at? Paul's "But Now" (us, the Church the BOdy of Christ) is Peter's "TIME PAST". It's Peter's "TIME PAST" because WE AREN'T HERE. This age of grace has ended, and the "Ages to Come" have begun: Peter's "BUT NOW" is Paul's "AGES TO COME"...after the Church the Body of Christ is raptured, and God once again deals with Israel as a NATION, a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD (which was prophesied they would be). THey once again become the people of God. And those going through the tribulation, the tribulation saints, are a CHOSEN GENERATION. THose who will endure and go into the Kingdom when Christ returns.

All of 1 and 2 Peter deal with the last days. So do John, Jude, James, Hebrews, and of course Revelation.

But not the same "last days" that Paul spoke of. Paul's last days concern the last days of the Church the Body of Christ. Peter, James, John, Jude, and whoever wrote Hebrews deals with the "last days" before Christ returns to set up His Kingdom.

432 posted on 02/01/2012 4:08:40 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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