Posted on 01/27/2012 8:11:10 PM PST by Colofornian
After wondering aloud yesterday whether the Romneys converted Mitt's dead father-in-law to Mormonism...Yes. They did.
Edward Davies, Ann Romney's father, was an atheist who was also strongly anti-religion. By the time he died, he was the only member of Ann Romney's immediate family to not convert to Mormonism.
Fourteen months later, in 1993, he was baptized in a special ceremony at a Salt Lake City church. This practice requires a living person who has already been baptized to undergo the immersion in water again on behalf of the dead. No word on who this person might have been in Davies' case.
Information on the ceremony was listed on a genealogical database, and another entry on Ancestry.com detailed a separate sealing ceremony that linked Davies to his wife in death...
Baptism of the dead is encouraged by the Church of Latter-day Saints, as it is seen as essential to salvation. But the LDS Church has been criticized for it often. After coming under fire in 1995, the Church agreed to stop baptizing Jewish Holocaust victims posthumously. It had already added tens of thousands to its baptism registry by that time.
Romney's faith has done little to damage his quest for the presidency so far. But the issue pops up once in a while, most recently after Romney's tax returns showed a $4.1 million donation to the Church. There's also evidence to suggest that anti-Mormon sentiment could have given votes to Newt Gingrich in South Carolina.
When Newsweek asked Romney whether he had performed any proxy baptisms in the past, Romney responded "I have in my life, but I haven't recently."
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Yes. See:
Anne Frank, a Mormon?
Well, not per Mitt Romney he doesn’t/
Romney, as other mormons will find out at the end of their lives that their so-called baptisms and subsequent sealings were of no use, This man died a sinner and remains so. The sad thing is even our prayers at this point cannot save his soul. He has been judged.
“Two things that really bug me about their service is so much of the information is incorrect and unless you are mormon you can’t get them to correct it.”
They don’t create records, they just publish them from church or civil registers, or family trees submitted. You should not rely upon somebody’s family tree unless they published their sources. It’s not reasonable to expect the LDS to verify every family tree submitted to them.
Hey, the Mormons claim they can become gods.
Why can't they dead-dunk us as potential gods like them then?
Why is their only post-life offer for us to become Mormons like them?
Why can't we become full-grown gods like them?
I'd be willing to bet that your relatives selected you as the idiot relative.
Nana: Didya ever think that just maybe he wasnt interested ???
mac: No. Anyone not interested in being closer to God is certifiably insane or just plain southern stupid.
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Kid this is about being dead dunked..
a sad pagan ritual having nothing to do with Christianity...
Nobody mentioned God...
dead dunkling is not God’s idea..
God came down and shed His Blood on the cross and died on the Cross in our place so that we come get up close and personal with Him..
We have to decide BEFORE we die...
once we’re dead its too late...
Ann Davies dad made up his mind while he was alive to reject the LORD Jesus Christ..
all the proxy dunking of little boys on his behalf till Jesus comes back is not going to get him out of Hell..
just plain southern stupid.
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Kid Im not the stupid one who thinks he has a black Mormon president
Thats you...
Yes I do have a problem with it. It is appalling, anyone who uses ancestry . com subjects their ancestors to this kookery and descendants 100 years from now will think they were mormons. Go Newt!!
Amen and the Rhino’s are saying Newt is crazy for wanting a moon colony
And that in itself is despicable
Thanks for the soda-out-the-nose, Nana
Look at me, I'm doing cannonballs and belly flops for ole' Brigham Young
I got first dibs on the moon for my planst..
Thats where President Newt is gonna build a colony base...
I wont have to have all themm there spirit babies
I’ll have lots of ready made earthling colonials to worship me..
:)
Listen...for the purposes of why Mormons do this...
...they could NEVER build enough such centers...
...NOR ever uncover the BILLIONS of non-existent records that don't exist about people who'd lived on the face of the earth...
Their claims by their "prophets" just don't match realistic apprisals. 'Tis all a fantasy of the mind:
In chapter 34 of the recently published Teachings of the Presidents: Joseph F. Smith, Smith said:
Not a soul that has ever lived and died from off the face of this earth shall escape a chance to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ. If they receive it and obey it, the ordinances of the gospel will be performed for and in their behalf, by their kindred, or their posterity in some generation of time after them, so that every law and every requirement of the gospel of Jesus Christ shall be carried out, and the promises and requirements fulfilled for the salvation of the living and also for the salvation of the dead. (Original citation: “Latter-day Saints Follow Teachings of the Savior,” Scrap Book of Mormon Literature, 2 vols. (n.d.), 2:561–62.)
That’s why the mainstream Lds curricula book, Gospel Principles, “Jesus has provided for EVERYONE to hear the gospel, whether on earth of after death.” Gospel Principles, 1997, p. 104
Sorry, there's no markings of the dead on stones to be found for even a small contingent of the dead.
BILLIONS died pre-Gutenberg.
BILLIONS still (have) died in more recent centuries either illiterate areas or where there's no centralized record-keeping of their lives.
Besides, even for ALL they uncover, there's not enough temple Mormons to run their baptism-for-the-dead industry...even if they ran their proxies through 24/7!
Now. The Mormons tout how "fair" it is for ALL to supposedly hear their gospel version. Yet how "fair" is it for all these BILLIONS to NEVER either be listed @ a family history center OR be dead-dunked in less than 150 Mormon temples?
LOL
Isn't this a little like Clinton's "I didn't inhale" statement? Doesn't it go to the core of what's wrong with Romney. He's a lifelong Mormon. Can't he stand up and strongly affirm his participation in the ritual of his church?
And apologize to your relatives.
Sure, but even when you have proof they will not change their records.
I do. It’s nonsense.
I do. It’s nonsense.
Don’t do it! My family did and to my parents’ great amusement, they have been posthumously baptized. Most of the amusement stems from the fact that THEY ARE STILL ALIVE. I wonder if people have to meet quotas.
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