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Pope says uniting Christianity requires conversion
cna ^ | January 18, 2012 | David Kerr

Posted on 01/18/2012 3:19:15 PM PST by NYer

Pope Benedict XVI celebrates Mass for the Feast of the Epiphany in St. Peter's Basilica on Jan. 6, 2012

Vatican City, Jan 18, 2012 / 02:15 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Pope Benedict XVI said today that achieving Christian unity requires more than “cordiality and cooperation” and that it must be accompanied by interior conversion.

“Faith in Christ and interior conversion, both individual and communal, must constantly accompany our prayer for Christian unity,” said the Pope to over 8,000 pilgrims gathered in the Vatican’s Paul VI Audience Hall on Jan. 18.

The Pope’s comments mark the start of the 2012 Week of Prayer for Christian Unity that runs until Jan. 25. It will be observed by over 300 Christian churches and ecclesial communities around the globe. 

The Pope asked for “the Lord in a particular way to strengthen the faith of all Christians, to change our hearts and to enable us to bear united witness to the Gospel.”

In this way, he said, they “will contribute to the new evangelization and respond ever more fully to the spiritual hunger of the men and women of our time.”

The Pope explained that the concept of a week of prayer for Christian unity was initiated in 1908 by Paul Wattson, an Episcopalian minister from Maryland. One year later, he became a Catholic and was subsequently ordained to the priesthood.

Pope Benedict recalled how the initiative was supported by his predecessors Pope St. Pius X and Pope Benedict XV.  It was then “developed and perfected” in the 1930s by the Frenchman Abbé Paul Couturier, who promoted prayer “for the unity of the Church as Christ wishes and according to the means he wills.”

The mandate for the week of prayer, the Pope underscored, comes from the wish of Christ himself at the Last Supper “that they may all be one.” He observed that this mission was given a particular impetus by the Second Vatican Council (1962-65) but added that “the unity we strive for cannot result merely from our own efforts.” Rather,  “it is a gift we receive and must constantly invoke from on high.”  

The theme for 2012 Week of Prayer – “All shall be changed by the victory of Jesus Christ our Lord” – was crafted by the Polish Ecumenical Council. Pope Benedict said it reflects “their own experience as a nation,” which stayed faithful to Christ “in the midst of trials and upheavals,” including years of occupation by the Nazis and later the Communists.

The Pope tied the victory the Polish people experienced over their oppressors to overcoming the disunity that marks Christians.

He said that the “unity for which we pray requires inner conversion, both shared and individual,” and it cannot be “limited to cordiality and cooperation.” Instead, Christians must accept “all the elements of unity which God has conserved for us.”

Ecumenism, the Pope stated, is not an optional extra for Catholics but is “the responsibility of the entire Church and of all the baptized.” Christians, he said, must make praying for unity an “integral part” of their prayer life, “especially when people from different traditions come together to work for victory in Christ over sin, evil, injustice and the violation of human dignity.”

Pope Benedict then touched on the lack of unity in the Christian community, which he said “hinders the effective announcement of the Gospel and endangers our credibility.” Evangelizing formerly Christian countries and spreading the Gospel to new places will be “more fruitful if all Christians together announce the truth of the Gospel and Jesus Christ, and give a joint response to the spiritual thirst of our times,” he explained.

The Pope concluded his comments with the hope that this year’s Week of Prayer for Christian Unity will lead to “increased shared witness, solidarity and collaboration among Christians, in expectation of that glorious day when together we will all be able to celebrate the Sacraments and profess the faith transmitted by the Apostles.”

The general audience finished with Pope Benedict addressing pilgrims in various languages, including  greeting a group of men and women from the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps, before leading the crowd in the Our Father and imparting his apostolic blessing.


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To: CynicalBear

****You don’t suppose taking one verse and making Peter the rock of the church contrary to everything else that scripture teaches would be included in that idea would you? How about praying to those who have passed from this life? ****

This just illustrates yet again the absolute void in your understanding of the Church. There is much more than one verse which supports the Church’s teaching on Peter as the head of the earthly Church.

Not only that, one has to ignore that it was God who named Simon, Rock and why God changed the names of certain people in Scripture.

One would also have to ignore the fact that Jesus quoted Scripture and clarified what the Scripture actually meant.
Scripture is God’s Word, Jesus is God the Son, are you saying that Jesus contradicted Himself when He called Peter, Rock?

***Taking everything the writer writes rather than just snippets to find the truth! Who would have ever thought?***

Mere hubris, protestants removed from their Bibles anything they thought supported Catholicism.

Protestantism, the pick and choose method for tickling the ears.

How about scripture teaching that all Christians are a priesthood rather than just some hierarchy?


961 posted on 01/26/2012 6:29:47 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
>> protestants removed from their Bibles anything they thought supported Catholicism<<

Like what?

962 posted on 01/26/2012 6:40:10 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: smvoice

****pondering a possible epiphany if they would just allow their common sense to take over****

Common sense according to whom? You?

Physician heal thyself.


963 posted on 01/26/2012 7:08:11 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...
Catholics do not memorize verses, but read it as it meant to be read, as a whole story. Catholics may not parse each verse in the way a protestant does, but they are very familiar with Scripture.

Then why do they and the church take our verse out of context in Matthew and build the papacy on it?

And why do they take one verse out of context and build the priesthood on it?

And why do they take one verse out of context and have Mary be immaculately conceived and ever virgin?

And why do they cake one verse out of context and make works based salvation out of it?

Catholics don't memorize Scripture to their detriment.

Psalm 1:1-3 1 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; 2 but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night. 3 He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.

Psalm 119:11 I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

God's word is God's thoughts to us. When you memorize God's word, you're thinking God's thoughts.

Ephesians 6:16-18 16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; 17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, 18 praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

It's a sad commentary on Catholics that they know the CCC and opinion pieces of the ECF's better than they know the word of God.

964 posted on 01/26/2012 7:29:51 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Umm.. sola scriptura, sola fide, OSAS... No memorizing of scripture can result in these doctrines.

>>>”God’s word is God’s thoughts to us. When you memorize God’s word, you’re thinking God’s thoughts.”

Perhaps next, thinking God’s thoughts, you too will claim to be able to tell who is saved and not, who will be in Heaven and who in hell...


965 posted on 01/26/2012 7:59:56 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: CynicalBear
There you go again:

Peter 1:20  Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation.

All of the many, predictable, fables the anti-Catholic crowd posts, and everything they advocate is based on exactly what Scriptue says it should not be based on. Private Interpretation. And the dispensationalist rapture crowd are even directly and clearly redefining everything to fit with the private interpretation of one girl who made her prophecy and personally interpreted it in 1830. When you get right down to it, the entire doctrine of “Scripture Alone” is nothing BUT priavte interpretation of prophecy and everything else in Scripture. Yet, we get such cute little whimpers from one little kitty or another about how it’s others who don’t know or believe Scripture because they don’t agree with the interpretation the sad little kitty came up with or bought into.

Maybe one of these days some of the dispensationalist rapture folks will realize just how wrong they’ve been and change directions to accept Christ rather than following along behind those who worship their own Most High and Holy Self. Until then, all such folks are clearly condemned by their own judgement.

Titus 3:9 but avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law. For they are unprofitable and vain.
Titus 3:10 A man that is a heretic, after the first and second admonition, avoid:
Titus 3:11 Knowing that he, that is such an one, is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned by his own judgment.

Those who continue to deny the deity of Christ can fool themselves however they like, but they should get used to the idea of hearing, "I never knew you" from the very Jesus Christ they deny is God.

966 posted on 01/26/2012 8:29:40 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: CynicalBear

Seven books from the OT.

It goes with the whole “pick and choose” nature of protestantism.


967 posted on 01/26/2012 8:31:18 PM PST by Jvette
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To: metmom

****It’s a sad commentary on Catholics that they know the CCC and opinion pieces of the ECF’s better than they know the word of God.****

It’s a sad commentary that protestants expound so forcefully and falsely regarding things of which they are so devoid of knowledge and understanding.

One verse out of context?

There’s that mantra again.

One verse!!! One verse!!! One verse!!!!

Brrrrrraaaaakkkkk!!!

Only in a protestant dream.


968 posted on 01/26/2012 8:40:15 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear

Speaking of the “one verse” fallacy...how about the fact that they take two words, “rightly divided”, to build a whole new religion.


969 posted on 01/26/2012 8:45:03 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
Show us more than one verse that says Peter is the rock on which the church is built.

We'll wait.....


970 posted on 01/26/2012 8:45:47 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

971 posted on 01/26/2012 8:49:58 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: Jvette
The early fathers attest to Scripture, which in turn confirms them, but then the Holy Spirit is needed as guide to which Scripture and what theology of the early fathers, for we know that there were many “scriptures” not included in the final Canon of Scripture, and there were many writing of early Christians not accepted as truth. Sacred Scripture, Sacred Tradition, Magisterium the three legs of Christ’s Church. Whether you choose to admit it or not.

I do not admit nor accept the false premise. This "three-legged stool" is a Roman Catholic Church construct that seeks to assert equal authority to tradition and the magesterium as to that of Holy Scripture. They cannot be equal because of the simple truth that only Holy Scripture is the infallible, inerrant, God-breathed and revealed truth. If the supposed traditions or dogmas passed down from church "fathers" and the magesterium go against Holy Scripture, then Scripture has priority. God's truth - as revealed in the Bible - is to be upheld and supported by the Church of Christ, his body, by both its behavior and by its preaching.

In Scripture, the person of God and the Word of God are everywhere interrelated, so much so that whatever is true about the character of God is true about the nature of God's Word. God is true, impeccable, and reliable; therefore, so is His Word. What a person thinks about God's Word, in reality, reflects what a person thinks about God.
-John MacArthur

Basil the Great (ca.329–379)
On the Holy Spirit, 7.16
“We are not content simply because this is the tradition of the Fathers. What is important is that the Fathers followed the meaning of the Scripture.”

972 posted on 01/26/2012 8:55:31 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: metmom; CynicalBear; smvoice
I Cor. 4:5-7 Wherefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall each man have his praise from God. Now these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes; that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other. For who maketh thee to differ? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? but if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory as if thou hadst not received it?

I Thess. 5:19-22 Quench not the Spirit; despise not prophesyings; prove all things; hold fast that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.

973 posted on 01/26/2012 9:39:33 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: Rashputin; CynicalBear
II Peter 1:19-22
We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

974 posted on 01/26/2012 9:43:11 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: daniel1212

Pentecostal/Foursquare therefore have the most correct beliefs and doctrine.


975 posted on 01/27/2012 1:34:23 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: boatbums; Rashputin
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.

976 posted on 01/27/2012 5:23:07 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Rashputin
>>All of the many, predictable, fables the anti-Catholic crowd posts, and everything they advocate is based on exactly what Scriptue says it should not be based on.<<

Like the bodily assumption of Mary and that Mary is the queen of heaven?

977 posted on 01/27/2012 5:25:14 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Jvette
>>Seven books from the OT.<<

You mean the ones that have so many errors that there is no way they could have been inspired by God?

978 posted on 01/27/2012 5:27:02 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Ah, the mind of Christ that enables you to tell which individuals going to Heaven and who to hell?


979 posted on 01/27/2012 9:54:45 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; metmom
>> Ah, the mind of Christ that enables you to tell which individuals going to Heaven and who to hell?<<

Still with that unproven accusation I see.

980 posted on 01/27/2012 10:17:30 AM PST by CynicalBear
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