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To: CynicalBear
You tell me. One thing we do know for sure is that he wasn’t talking about “tradition” or the word of mouth “doctrines of man”. It would be rather ludicrous to think he meant anything other then the written word wouldn’t it.

Paul also said to hold fast to the traditions you were taught. Now please be intelligent/honest enough to admit that the "scriptures Paul was talking about was the OT since the canon of the NT had not been ordered by the Catholic Church, and wouldn't be until the late 300's.Facts are pesky things and they keep jumping up and biting you.

344 posted on 01/12/2012 8:47:38 AM PST by verga (We get what we tolerate and increase that which we reward)
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To: verga
>> since the canon of the NT had not been ordered by the Catholic Church, and wouldn't be until the late 300's.Facts are pesky things and they keep jumping up and biting you.<<

He was still saying to search the “written word” rather then rely on the spoken word. Facts are pesky things indeed.

348 posted on 01/12/2012 9:04:52 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: verga; CynicalBear

Oh, that you were correct, verga. But alas. The Scripture you speak of is 2 Tim. 1:13. This Epistle is the last Epistle from Paul, as he says he is “Now ready to be offered.” 4:6. THis would be around 67 AD. Which means the Church had ALL of Paul’s writings when this arrived. His writings were complete. Peter calls Paul’s writings Scripture in 2 Pet. 3:16. SO, ALL of Paul’s writings were no longer traditions the believers were taught. They were WRITTEN Scriptures. As a matter of fact, anything written before Paul’s martyr were not merely “oral tradition” passed along. The scriptures Paul was talking about were not only the OT but HIS own writings. As confirmed by Peter.


354 posted on 01/12/2012 9:25:16 AM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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