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To: MarkBsnr
>>You are going to compare yourself with Noah and Lot?<<

Nope, just pointing out that the majority and long history argument that Catholics love to use falls flat. The majority of the Jews rejected Christ. The majority of the Israelites worshiped the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain. The Jewish history is older than Catholic history. The mantra of “we have a history of 2000 years” rings hollow.

1,205 posted on 01/14/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; MarkBsnr

“The mantra of “we have a history of 2000 years” rings hollow.”

Really? The Apostolic Church traces it’s lineage from the first Apostles until now and that “rings hollow”? How odd.

But then again you think that Christmas and Easter are pagan and that going to Church on Sunday is a made up tradition.


1,207 posted on 01/14/2012 7:08:32 AM PST by narses
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To: CynicalBear
>>You are going to compare yourself with Noah and Lot?<<

Nope, just pointing out that the majority and long history argument that Catholics love to use falls flat. The majority of the Jews rejected Christ. The majority of the Israelites worshiped the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain. The Jewish history is older than Catholic history. The mantra of “we have a history of 2000 years” rings hollow.

It is 2000 years of unbroken Christianity that Jesus taught to the Apostles and they and their successors have handed down to us.

We received Christianity from Jesus the Christ, Lord and Creator of All. He is the Creator of the Church.

I think that the corrupter of desire created the Reformation.

1,226 posted on 01/14/2012 9:31:32 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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***Nope, just pointing out that the majority and long history argument that Catholics love to use falls flat.***

More complete misunderstanding of Catholicism and the Church.

It is not the “majority” that shows the Church has done as Jesus commanded. It is that the Church is present throughout the whole world, “all the nations”. That people respond to the truth they hear from the Church is an action of the Holy Spirit.

It also is not so much that the Church has been here for 2,000 years, it is that the Church has prevailed, as Jesus promised it would. That it has been 2,000 years is only because, gee, it’s been 2,000 years since Christ lived and died and rose again.

Neither of these things would be or could be true, if the Holy Spirit does not guide and protect the Church, just as Jesus promised.

Acts 5:39but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.”

40They took his advice; and after calling the apostles in, they flogged them and ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and then released them. 41So they went on their way from the presence of the Council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for His name. 42And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.


1,235 posted on 01/14/2012 10:35:07 AM PST by Jvette
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