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Mary: Mother of God?
What Does the Bible say? ^ | 01/11/2012 | Bro. Lev Humphries,

Posted on 01/11/2012 7:34:56 PM PST by RnMomof7

Mary: Mother of God?

This article is prompted by an ad in the Parade Magazine titled: "Mary Mother of God: What All Mankind Should Know." The offer was made for a free pamphlet entitled "Mary Mother of Jesus" with this explanation: "A clear, insightful pamphlet explains the importance of Mary and her role as Mother of God."

This is quite a claim, to say the least! Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God. I touched on this subject in a series on "Mary Co-Redeemer with Christ" printed recently.

Question: If Mary is the Mother of God, Who, may I ask, is the Father of God? Does God have a Father, and if He does, Who is His Mother?

The phrase "Mother of God" originated in the Council of Ephesus, in the year 431 AD. It occurs in the Creed of Chalcedon, which was adopted by the council in 451 AD. This was the declaration given at that time: "Born of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God according to the Manhood." The purpose of this statement originally was meant to emphasize the deity of Christ over against the teaching of the Nestorians whose teaching involved a dual-natured Jesus. Their teaching was that the person born of Mary was only a man who was then indwelt by God. The title "Mother of God" was used originally to counter this false doctrine. The doctrine now emphasizes the person of Mary rather than the deity of Jesus as God incarnate. Mary certainly did not give birth to God. In fact, Mary did not give birth to the divinity of Christ. Mary only gave birth to the humanity of Jesus. The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to. Read Hebrews 10:5 and Phil 2:5-11.

Please refer to Hebrews 10:5 where we see. "...Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me."

The body of Jesus was prepared by God. In Matthew 1:18, "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost."

The divine nature of Jesus existed from before eternity, and this cannot be said of Mary Jesus never called her "mother". He called her "woman".

This doctrine deifies Mary and humanizes Jesus. Mary is presented as stronger that Christ, more mature and more powerful that Christ. Listen to this statement by Rome: "He came to us through Mary, and we must go to Him through her." The Bible plainly states that God is the Creator of all things. It is a blasphemous attack on the eternity of God to ever teach that He has a mother. Mary had other children who were normal, physical, sinful human beings. In the case of Jesus Christ, "His human nature had no father and His divine nature had no mother."

It is probably no coincidence that this false doctrine surrounding Mary was born in Ephesus. Please read Acts 19:11-41 and see that Ephesus had a problem with goddess worship. Her name was Diana, Gk. Artemis. You will not have to study very deep to find the similarities between the goddess Diana and the Roman Catholic goddess, Mary. It should be noted that the Mary of the 1st century and the Mary of the 20th century are not the same. Mary of the 1st century was the virgin who gave birth to the Messiah. Mary of the 20th century is a goddess created by the Roman Catholic Church. A simple comparison of what the Bible teaches about Mary and what the Roman Catholic Church teaches about her will reveal two different Marys. Mary is not the "Mother of God." If she were she would be GOD! There is only one true, eternal God. He was not born of a woman. Any teaching on any subject should be backed up by the word of God. If it cannot be supported by Scriptures, it is false doctrine.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: blessedvirginmary; calvinismisdead; divinity; humanity; ignoranceisbliss; mariolatry; mary; motherofgod; nestorianheresy; nestorians; perpetualvirginity; theotokos
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To: RnMomof7

This is not a false doctrine. Have you read the book of Luke?

“Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.”

Now why would the Archangel address Mary in that way?


21 posted on 01/11/2012 8:05:40 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: editor-surveyor

I read mine every day.

I respect, not worship Mary, because God himself chose her.

And, I don’t argue with God.


22 posted on 01/11/2012 8:06:07 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

????


23 posted on 01/11/2012 8:06:52 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: All
For the truth:

Do a virgin birth and perfect knowledge make Jesus less human? Or Mary less a mother? [Ecumenical]
Newman about Mary, Mother of God [Catholic Caucus]
How could Mary be the Mother of God?
Mary, the Mother of God (a defense)
Calling Mary “Mother of God” Tells Us Who Jesus Is
Mary, Motherhood, and the Home BY Archbishop Fulton Sheen
On Mary, Mother of Priests

Mary: Holy Mother
Mary: Mother of Divine Life: Model of Pro-life Apostles [Catholic Caucus]
The Mother of God [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Mother of God calls us to be 'Bearers of God'
HE INCREASES AND SHE DECREASES [Mary, Mother of God]
Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God - Mary, Full of Grace
Happy Mother's Day to Mary - the Mother of God
Catholic beliefs about Mary, the Mother of God
Mary, Mother of God
The Early Church Fathers on The Mother of God - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

Mary, Mother of God
Mary in Feminist Theology: Mother of God or Domesticated Goddess?
Mary: True Mother of God
Feast of Mary, Mother of God (not a Holy Day of Obligation this year)
MARIAN DEVOTION - Akathist Hymn to the Mother of God
Mother of God
Virgin Mother of God
A Homily on the Dormition of Our Supremely Pure Lady Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary
The Mother of the Son: The Case for Marian Devotion
Mary: True Mother of God

24 posted on 01/11/2012 8:07:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ExtremeUnction

Mary silliness?

I don’t think so. She is the Mother of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.

Better take those words back.


25 posted on 01/11/2012 8:09:02 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: RnMomof7

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it.


26 posted on 01/11/2012 8:09:45 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: RnMomof7

“Bother Lev” needs to find a Bible and read the Magnificat in the first chapter of the Gospel of Luke.


27 posted on 01/11/2012 8:10:28 PM PST by iowamark
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To: editor-surveyor

Christians believe Jesus is God.
Christians believe Mary gave birth to Jesus.
Christians believe there is only one Jesus.
Christians believe Mary is the mother of Jesus.
Christians believe Jesus is God.
Christians believe Jesus is God.
Christians believe Mary is the Mother of God.
Christians believe Jesus is God.
Christians believe there is only one Jesus.
Christians believe Mary is the mother of Jesus.

Muslims don’t believe Jesus is God.
Muslims don’t believe Jesus is God.
Muslims don’t believe Mary is the Mother of God.


28 posted on 01/11/2012 8:10:34 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: Pyro7480; RnMomof7

>> “The title Theotokos or “Mother of God” acknowledges that Mary gave birth to a PERSON, not a nature.” <<

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There’s a big problem for that particular blasphemy:

That “Person” was already in existence millenia before Mary was born, by his own testimony:

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
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29 posted on 01/11/2012 8:10:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: RnMomof7

did you read the article before you posted it?


30 posted on 01/11/2012 8:11:50 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: conservativguy99

Like was stated in the article. The Mary of the Bible is not the Mary worshiped by Catholics.


31 posted on 01/11/2012 8:12:21 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: editor-surveyor; RnMomof7

so you agree with Joseph Smith that the Church was apostate in 431ad?


32 posted on 01/11/2012 8:13:46 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

You can substitute the word ‘pagans’ for ‘christians’ in the statement “Christians believe Mary is the Mother of God” to make it more factual.
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33 posted on 01/11/2012 8:13:46 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism

The Roman Catholic Blasphemy is not “the church.”


34 posted on 01/11/2012 8:15:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; RnMomof7; rzman21; Cronos; Mr Rogers; smvoice; CynicalBear; ...
” Jesus was not human. “

so Jesus was not human? it’s amazing, that attacks on the Church and the historical, biblical, orthodox Faith always leads to attacks on Jesus Christ Himself.

if Jesus wasn’t human, we are all still dead in our sins and He didn’t really suffer and shed His blood on the Cross.

unbelievable someone that claims to be a Christian could post such heresy.

Not unbelievable that someone who claims to be a Christian would misrepresent what someone else said though, sadly.

Cherry picking passages out an an article to misrepresent what was said is intellectually dishonest and disingenuous.

Here's the entire sentence.

The only thing Jesus got from Mary was a body. Every Human Being has received a sinful nature from their parents with one exception: Jesus was not human. He was divine God in a flesh body. This is what Mary gave birth to.

35 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:26 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear; rzman21; Cronos; Salvation; RnMomof7; metmom

you keep pushing this “ Mary worshipped by Catholics “ untruth.
when challenged in the past for proof, none was forthcoming.

so again i will ask you, please name one Catholic that worships Mary.

just one will do.


36 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:48 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: narses; RnMomof7
Contemporary Protestants distance themselves from the title, “Mother of God,” and perhaps for good reason. The term has evolved in its usage. What was once a rich theological term expressing a doctrinal truth about Christ developed quickly into a venerating praise to Mary. The term Theotokos can be translated with a strong Christocentric nuance as, “the one who gave birth to the one who is God.”[16] In the fifth century, the term was brought to the theological forefront by conflict with Nestorius. He argued that only the human nature of Jesus Christ had been born of Mary, thus provoking debate on the validity of the term. His concern was to protect the divine nature from similarities with the mother deities of paganism. [17]

Unlike modern Protestants, Luther did not shy away from using the term, “Mother of God,” and he was fully cognizant of its correct usage. He succinctly analyzes the Nestorian heresy, and concludes that Nestorius:

Insisted on the literal meaning of the words, “God born of Mary,” and interpreted “born” according to grammar or philosophy, as though it meant to obtain divine nature from the one who bore him, … We too know very well that God did not derive his divinity from Mary; but it does not follow that it is therefore wrong to say that God was born of Mary, that God is Mary’s Son, and that Mary is God’s mother. [18]

Throughout his career, one finds Luther expressing not only the rich Christ- centered usage of Theotokos when discussing the incarnation or Christ’s Deity, but he also uses the term simply as a synonym for Mary, which was common in sixteenth century Western Christendom.[19] In a Table Talk entry from 1542, one finds Luther using the title as a mode of exclamation, “O Mary, mother of God!”[20] This is not to suggest that Luther did not think of Mary as particularly special. To the contrary, Luther was to call her “Mother of God, exalted above all mortals”[21] when he considered she was given the great gift of being mother to the Messiah.

Luther though shifts the emphasis back to God: “She does not desire herself to be esteemed; she magnifies God alone and gives all glory to Him. She leaves herself out and ascribes everything to God alone, from whom she received it.”[22] For Mary to be exalted, was actually for her to “magnify God alone, to count only Him great and lay claim to nothing.”[23] As Heiko Oberman points out, when Luther uses the term “Theotokos,” “There is indeed little chance that Mary can become the thing signified rather than the sign.”[24] Mary, serving as the sign pointing to Christ, was to say: “I am but the workshop in which He performs His work; I had nothing to do with the work itself. No one should praise me or give me the glory for becoming the Mother of God, but God alone and His work are to be honored and praised in me.”[25]

He also compounds the term with “blessed”: “most blessed Mother of God,”[26] or “Blessed Virgin, Mother of God.”[27] Even in the usage of “blessed” though, Luther shifts the emphasis away from Mary and back to God. He explains that Mary thought herself “blessed” because God “regarded” her; that is, God turned His face toward her and gave grace and salvation, as he likewise did when He chose to give grace to Abel, rather than Cain. He explains, “But for this one thing alone, that God regarded her, men will call her blessed. That is to give all the glory to God as completely as it can be done… Not she is praised thereby, but God’s grace toward her.”[28] Luther sees this “regarding” as God’s bestowal of grace in choosing His children unto salvation and sanctification: “For where it comes to pass that God turns His face toward one to regard him, there is nothing but grace and salvation, and all gifts and works must follow.” [29]

(http://tquid.sharpens.org/luther_mary1.htm#III

Take note of this: no one should put his trust or confidence in the Mother of God or in her merits, for such trust is worthy of God alone and is the lofty service due only to him. Rather praise and thank God through Mary and the grace given her. Laud and love her simply as the one who, without merit, obtained such blessings from God, sheerly out of his mercy, as she herself testifies in the Magnificat. (Martin Luther, Luther’s Works, 43:10.)

37 posted on 01/11/2012 8:16:48 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: RnMomof7

“Nowhere in the Bible is Mary said to be the mother of God”

I quit reading there.

Call me a ‘Mary-Idol Worshiping Papist’ I don’t care.

But never have I found a love as pure as Mary has given those who call her blessed.


38 posted on 01/11/2012 8:17:32 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: RnMomof7

Please read the Bible. The first thing you may notice about Jesus Christ is the fact: HE did NOT walk around the Holy Lands handing out Bibles & saying, ‘Here read this Bible & argue about it.’

Jesus Christ established a Church. You can read many passages in the Bible about the Church that Jesus Christ built. There is a promise that the ‘Gates of Hell’ will never prevail against the Church established by Jesus Christ. I recommend you look for that Church. Out of that Church came the Bible.

Luke 1: 41-43 ‘When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, cried out in a loud voice and said, ‘Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And how does this happen to me that the MOTHER of my Lord should come to me?’ In the Christian Church,> JESUS IS LORD.


39 posted on 01/11/2012 8:17:36 PM PST by gghd
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To: Mad Dawg; RnMomof7

Was that your reaction to the thread posted by the Catholics on the same topic?


40 posted on 01/11/2012 8:17:52 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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