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To: Rashputin; Campion; smvoice; metmom; boatbums; caww; daniel1212
>>Particularly when their preferred fantasy includes the expectation of a Messiah who disregards what Christ said and spares them from the battle in this life in spite of Christ clearly promising no such thing to those who follow Him.<<

Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven,and destroyed them all.30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Lot was taken out of the wrath to come.

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house, by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

The chosen inside the Ark were saved from the wrath of God.

Jesus will deliver us from the wrath to come.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

We have already been told scoffers would make fun of us just like they did Noah.

2 Peter 3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

If you are right we lose nothing. If you are wrong look at the group of people you will be associated with.

86 posted on 01/09/2012 4:01:18 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear; Rashputin; metmom; presently no screen name; caww; daniel1212
"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ." 1 Thess.5:9.

"Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." Rom. 5:9.

87 posted on 01/09/2012 4:17:04 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: CynicalBear
LOL, Oh, sure, anyone who doesn't agree with the YOPIOS cash cow fantasy of The Rapture of the Snowflakes Doctrine, is a scoffer. The Scriptues also say that there will be those who twist Scriptures to suit themselves and everything about the YOPIOS crowd screams, "Scripture twisted to suit whatever you like !!!". Noah didn't reinterpret The Word to fit into his preconceptions, build a fleet of Arks, and become a wealthy shipping magnet, all with the proceeds from the sale of his YOPIOS decoder ring based fantasy books.

The The Rapture of the Snowflakes Doctrine is a YOPIOS driven deliberate deception that very effectively neutralizes those who believe it by removing them from the battle against Satan every bit as effectively as if they never even believed in Christ to begin with. There's no "if you're wrong" about it, agreeing with Scriptures is never an error which is exactly why most Christians reject the Rapture fantasies. Christ clearly said Jerusalem would be destroyed while some of those he was speaking to were still alive and Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD. Fortunately Christians at that time took the words of Christ seriously rather than twisting them to fit into their fantasies. By believing what Christ said they knew to flee Jerusalem and in doing so were spared from the ensuing slaughter. The entire Snowflake & YOPIOS crowd would have been trapped with the Jews who refused to accept Christ and slaughtered right along with them because the YOPIOS folks can never accept what Christ said without first revising it to suit themselves exactly the same way Eve revised what she was told. Self worship and YOPIOS always leads to heresy and a reprobate mind incapable of understanding Scripture, even for those who once earnestly studied His Word but then fell into worship of the Self like all the Gnostics before them have.

There is no Rapture of The Snowflakes or any other sort of Rapture predicted, foretold, promised, or even hinted at in the Bible, not even in the abbreviated Pharisee approved subset of the Scriptures non-Catholics prefer. The Lindsey/LeHaye money machine is based on stroking the egos of those who join their fantasy game clique and claim snowflake status. To accept any of the assorted flavors of the Rapture of The Snowflakes Doctrine requires you to accept the premise that Jesus Christ was and is a liar. Just look at the group of people calling Christ a liar associates you with.

91 posted on 01/09/2012 11:44:55 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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