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To: rzman21

There are few here interested in dialogue on religion. They pretend to just to get something going and then launch into attack mode with MY Church believes this and you can’t prove that. I give verse and scripture and the result is “I don’t believe in Sola Scriptura” or something to that effect. Look at MarkBsnr s tagline for heavens sake. If that doesn’t tell you where this guy gets his Koolaid® from, nothing does. I tried to have a dialogue with OFOLOB and he is untruthful in saying I haven’t given him verses from the NT. He then accuses me repeatedly of looking at things with “Ellen White glasses” when I do not quote the woman, I don’t follow the woman and give her no more weight than the pope and repeatedly tell him so. He is intellectually dishonest.


28 posted on 12/28/2011 6:37:19 PM PST by BipolarBob (Of all the taglines in all the posts in all the world and she read mine.)
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To: BipolarBob

I believe in Jesus, what religion am I?


30 posted on 12/28/2011 6:38:48 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: BipolarBob

Cardinal Walter Kasper, the Pope’s former point man on ecumenism, writes:
“Likewise, in the ecumenical movement, the Church takes part in an exchange of gifts with the separated Churches (cf. Ut Unum Sint, nn. 28, 57), enriches them and at the same time makes their gifts her own; she brings them to the fullness of their catholicity and thereby fully attains her own catholicity (cf. Unitatis Redintegratio, n. 4).

Mission and ecumenism are two forms of the eschatological journey and the eschatological dynamic of the Church.

The Council was not so ingenuous as to ignore the danger that integrating the ecumenical movement into the Church’s dynamic eschatology could entail. This dynamic, as has happened all too often in the Church’s history, could have been erroneously interpreted as a progressivist movement that saw the heritage of ancient traditions as obsolete, rejecting it in the name of what might be termed a progressivist conception of faith. Wherever this occurs there is a real risk of relativism and indifferentism, of “cheap ecumenism” that ends by becoming superfluous. This has at times meant that the ecumenical movement has fallen prey to movements critical of the Church, and this has been exploited against her.

Dogmatic laxism leads to the refusal to recognize the essence of the Church’s eschatological dimension. The eschaton does not in fact refer to a future reality that is located outside history. With Jesus Christ and with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, it has definitively entered history and is present in the Church.”
http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PCCUR40Y.HTM

Catholics cannot engage in an “I’m OK, you’re OK” mentality vis-a-vis Protestantism. If Protestants have a problem, then we will just have to agree to disagree, agreeably.

We can’t be relativists.


42 posted on 12/28/2011 6:53:19 PM PST by rzman21
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To: BipolarBob; rzman21
Look at MarkBsnr s tagline for heavens sake. If that doesn’t tell you where this guy gets his Koolaid® from, nothing does.

I got it from a dude called Augustine of Hippo.

He had Christianity well defined 1700 years before you were a gleam in the milkman's eye. Much more Christian than anything I've ever seen you post.

230 posted on 12/29/2011 6:53:53 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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