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Pope highlights Mary's role as 'woman of the apocalypse'
Catholic News Agency ^ | 12/28/11 | Benjamin Mann

Posted on 12/27/2011 8:24:19 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: vladimir998; Talisker

Yeah, I so often want to exclaim, “How could someone possibly go through so-and-so many years of Catholic education and come out so profoundly ignorant of the most basic Catholic theology. Then I remember the low quality of catechetical instruction and I read the absolute inability of some people to comprehend a simple sentence, and I say to myself, ‘No, I guess it’s credible. Sad, but credible.’”

The truth is most of the nonsense that these “former Catholics” claim Catholics believe is the result of severe truth-twisting by evangelical churches. They know so little little of context of what they saw around them (”They were praying in front of statues!”) and are so bereft of basic reasoning skills that they easily fall prey to whatever ploys are used against them (”They were praying TO statues!”)


61 posted on 12/28/2011 9:30:52 AM PST by dangus
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To: ExtremeUnction
Well, it was foretold in prophecy:

"All generations will call me blessed."

62 posted on 12/28/2011 9:31:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Quix

>> Perhaps now you have a better understanding of how Proddys feel in the face of the Ashteroth-Mary-Goddess caricature posts from the RC side. <<

You see, Quix, the problem is that you actually believe this insanity about what Catholics supposedly believe. If you ever see a Catholic actually posts something praying to Asheroth or calling Mary a goddess, feel free to unleash the righteousness of God almighty on their ignorant, pathetic souls. Until then, your posts are indistinguishable from the rantings of a schizophrenic.


63 posted on 12/28/2011 9:34:55 AM PST by dangus
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To: doc1019
More likely the Archangel Gabriel.


64 posted on 12/28/2011 9:35:57 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: dangus
SUPER ABUNDANT EVIDENCE OF JUST WHAT YOU REQUEST IS BELOW:

Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.

the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.

Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.

ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

65 posted on 12/28/2011 9:52:15 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Calling her blessed is

many galactic light years’ distance from

calling her

QUEEN OF HEAVEN.


66 posted on 12/28/2011 9:53:28 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Evil will exist until Jesus returns. Until then, satan pawns will continue spewing their idolatry.

“That is why the people of God, pilgrims in time, turn to their heavenly mother and ask for her help,” explained Pope Benedict.

That is just one example, the article is full of deception from Old Benny as he rejects God's Word.

God's children NEVER turn to anyone but Our Father in heaven - just like Jesus taught and did.

"I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE can snatch them out of My hand". John 10:28

"My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all; and NO MAN is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand." John 10:29

Satan wants to be praised and have his own kingdom - he gets it by setting up Mary as the one for his members to turn to/pray to.

Worshipping/praying to/venerating anyone or anything else but God is idolatry/satan.

Some are too hell bent to be bothered with - we already know 'many' are on the wide road to destruction. We already see from the "Jesus, The Word, is not enough" crowd and their deceived leader's words and teachings, how repulsed they are with God's Word. Satan started and will finish going against God's Word.

God' Word is powerful and It's the name of JESUS that has the power to cast satan out - so he has them using Mary in place of Jesus. "I'm ALL yours, Mary" - from another one of the deceived leaders. Maryology is right from the pit and leads back to the pit. Notice the pope doesn't belong to Jesus - he's not in The Father's Hand.

God bless Israel! It's ALL about Jesus.
67 posted on 12/28/2011 9:53:59 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: RnMomof7
    Luke 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Do you?
68 posted on 12/28/2011 9:56:37 AM PST by Titanites
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
Merry Christmas Rnmom!

I think she is a calvinist.

69 posted on 12/28/2011 9:57:58 AM PST by Titanites
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To: presently no screen name

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

WELL PUT.

THX THX.


70 posted on 12/28/2011 9:58:22 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: CynicalBear
My intent was to show that I would look at Calvin the way Servetus did. Reading comprehension man.

And you did it by telling someone to inquire of the dead. Shame on you.

71 posted on 12/28/2011 10:00:39 AM PST by Titanites
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To: RnMomof7
Interesting in that the Pope seldom, rarely references anything in Revelations. Going to a Catholic School we never heard of Revelations. My 8th grade year I learned of "Revelations" from the evangelical group across the street. Boy did that make for an interesting confessional discussion with Father Khasteel at the time...
72 posted on 12/28/2011 10:02:43 AM PST by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: RnMomof7
If you only knew the truth.

"Never apologize for the

Blessed Virgin Mary!"

~~Mother Angelica

 

Mother Angelica and Marcus Grodi with Rosalind Moss and Kristine Franklin


73 posted on 12/28/2011 10:04:39 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Campion; Quix
The woman of Revelation 12 does give birth to Jesus; the text flatly says so. It's amazing what you learn when you actually read the Bible, instead of just believing what "Brother So-and-so" tells you about it.

You might want to try using CONTEXT.
Read the rest of chapter twelve to
understand the one verse
that you have ripped out of context.

Clearly salvation will come out of Tzion.

The woman is the wife of YHvH: Israel.
She, Israel, gives birth to Yah'shua.

If you were to read the entire chapter
instead of the Man-Made Traditions you
see that the woman is Israel.

Seek YHvH in His WORD !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
74 posted on 12/28/2011 10:05:40 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: ExtremeUnction

How many times do Catholics on FR need to tell you that we do not worship the Blessed Mother.

We ask her to pray for us.

That’s it.


75 posted on 12/28/2011 10:06:51 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Titanites
>> And you did it by telling someone to inquire of the dead. Shame on you.<<

Oh good grief. It was a metaphor. A way of saying that those you hurt and those who know about it don’t think much of you. Get a grip. Only Catholics and other pagans pray or talk to the dead.

76 posted on 12/28/2011 10:08:47 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Salvation
Y'ALL'S OWN EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT'S

FARRRRRR FROM

"That's it."

Below are the examples
of exalting other deities.
They are real.
They are serious.
They are owned,
operated in,
manifested in,
heart-felt wallowed in
by millions of Roman Catholics around the world.
Pretending otherwise does not change the facts.
White washing it with magicsterical diplospeak
doesn't change the facts.
Rationalizing it with 101 weasel words
doesn't change the facts.
.
.
.

the FACTS are easy enough to see below
for anyone with
more discernment than a gnat's.
.
.
.

Those reading this with any consciousness above comotose
no longer have any excuse.
.
.
.
Holy Spirit will be nudging, urging, forsaking of all such
--ALL HINT OF SUCH--
IGNORING HIS LEADING, NUDGING, URGING
in such matters can be spiritually deadly.
Very spiritually deadly.
.
.
.

ONCE AGAIN,
just a small part of
THE EVIDENCE: .
.
.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32
.
[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.'
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue."
.
[Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.'
.
[Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.'
.
[Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought."
.
[QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

77 posted on 12/28/2011 10:11:21 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: annalex

Thanks be to God indeed!


78 posted on 12/28/2011 10:12:11 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Quix; A.A. Cunningham; A.Hun; Albion Wilde; Al Hitan; AnAmericanMother; Ann Archy; annalex; ...

"many galactic light years"

Certainly!

And ... I LOVE that, Quix!

Tagline.


79 posted on 12/28/2011 10:12:20 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("He whom the whole Universe cannot contain, O Mary, enclosed Himself in your womb and was made man.")
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To: CynicalBear

**Please read the Bible **

And don’t skip the book of Luke!


80 posted on 12/28/2011 10:14:00 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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