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1 posted on 12/26/2011 6:08:25 PM PST by rzman21
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‘Sola scrptura’ is a misnomer. Those who claim to subscribe to it also claim a voice in their head tells them the accurate interpretation.


2 posted on 12/26/2011 6:13:48 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Sola Scriptura is not correct. You cannot be saved by scripture, no matter how much of it you read.

Sola Fides.


3 posted on 12/26/2011 6:15:34 PM PST by Grunthor (Do you worship the State or do you worship the Lord? There is no middle ground.)
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Actually, I reject long-winded legalists. Of any persuasion.

Feed anyone today?

/johnny

4 posted on 12/26/2011 6:16:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Actually, I’m against “anti- Scriptura,” which describes much of Catholicism teaching.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 6:17:30 PM PST by fwdude
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I sincerely thank you for sharing all this excellent information. My prayers are that you read it all with an open mind and pray for your inner guidance to guide you to the truth within it. However, also read the opposing viewpoints with the same open , critical mind. We do not need to convince others of a truth in order to accept it ourselves. If we feel that need, it most likely is a very weak truth and should be examined more thoroughly.


7 posted on 12/26/2011 6:18:12 PM PST by tired&retired
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If “sola scriptura” were actually words in the Bible, then I would be more open to the idea of it being credible.


12 posted on 12/26/2011 6:22:21 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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Yes because a book written by a man inspired by God, needs to be interpreted by a man so he can write another book because another man is too ignorant to understand it himself.

Never mind that the Word tells us we are each responsible for knowing the book.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 6:24:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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best article i have ever read explaining the illogic that is sola scriptura.


18 posted on 12/26/2011 6:24:59 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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21 posted on 12/26/2011 6:28:01 PM PST by narses
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But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. John 16:13 NIV

I find the Holy Spirit to be most helpful to my daily life and unveiling God’s Word. I am so thankful that God will dwell in the hearts of all Believers that ask in faith.

...the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. John 14:17

But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:26


24 posted on 12/26/2011 6:31:11 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want for bread.")
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Yah'shua is NAMEd as the WORD of G-d.

The Roman "church" rejects the WORD of G-d.

Replaced and impugned it with Man-Made tradition.

Seek YHvH in His holy WORD.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

28 posted on 12/26/2011 6:32:46 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Despise not prophesyings.
http://bible.cc/1_thessalonians/5-20.htm

http://www.christian-faith.com/forjesus/23hrs-dead-she-saw-famous-people-in-hell-michael-jackson-pope-john-paul-ii-others

When Pope John Paul II died, my friends and my cousins would tell me that he had gone to heaven. All the news on TV, on Extra and many other places would say, ‘Pope John Paul II has died, may he rest in peace. He is now rejoicing with the Lord and his angels in heaven’ and I believed all of it, but I was only fooling myself with what people were saying.

When I suddenly saw this man who was being tormented by those flames and I looked at his face, it was John Paul II! The Lord said to me, ‘Look, Daughter, that man that you see there, is Pope John Paul II. He is here in this place; he is being tormented because he did not repent. And I asked, ‘Lord, why is he here? He used to preach at church.’ He replied, ‘Daughter, no fornicator, no idolater, no one who is greedy and no liar will inherit my Kingdom.’ To which I commented, ‘Yes, I know that is true, but I want to know why he is here, because he used to preach to multitudes of people!’ And He responded, ‘Yes, Daughter, he may have said many things, but he would never speak the truth as it is. He never said the truth and they know the truth and although he knew the truth, he preferred money over preaching about salvation. He would not offer reality; would not say that hell is real and that heaven also exists; Daughter, now he is here in this place.’

When I looked at this man, he had a very large, scaly serpent with needles wrapped around his throat and he would try to take it off, so I said to the Lord, ‘Lord, help him!’ He would also say, ‘Help me, Lord; have mercy on me; take me out of this place; forgive me! I repent, Lord; I want to return to Earth, I want to go back to Earth to repent.’ The Lord observed him and said to him, ‘You very well knew; you knew very well that this place was real,’ and then the Lord said: ‘It’s too late; there is no other opportunity for you.’

Then the Lord said to me, ‘Look, Daughter, I am going to show you the life of this man.’ And He began showing me a huge screen on which I could observe how this man offered mass many times to the multitudes and how the people who were there were so idolatrous.

The Lord said to me, ‘Look, Daughter, there are many idolaters in this place. Idolatry will not save, Daughter. I am the only One who saves and outside of me no one saves. I love the sinner but I hate sin, Daughter. Go and tell humanity that I love them and that they need to come to me.’ As the Lord was speaking to me these words, I began to see how he received multitudes of coins, bills- and it was all money, all of which he would keep, so he had much money.

I saw him seated on a throne and I was able to see beyond that and while it’s true that they will not marry , I can assure you – I did not invent this, the Lord showed it to me- those people will cohabit with nuns there; with many women there! The Lord showed me these people living in fornication and the Word says that no fornicator will inherit His Kingdom.

As I was watching all of this, the Lord told me, ‘Look Daughter, all of this which I am showing you is what goes on, what he lived and what keeps on happening among many people, among many priests and popes existing.’ Then he told me, ‘Daughter, go and tell humanity that it’s time to turn to me.’


30 posted on 12/26/2011 6:33:50 PM PST by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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rzman21:

Just a simply, straight-forward question for you: Are the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments the Word of God or not?


33 posted on 12/26/2011 6:37:59 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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Will ya just mail me the novel?


36 posted on 12/26/2011 6:39:25 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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You actually think I'm gonna' READ all that?

I don't interpret the Bible .. I read it ... it's written in understandable English.

And it DOES stand alone as The Word of God.

40 posted on 12/26/2011 6:40:09 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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“”Matthew 18:15-18 we see Christ instructing His disciples on how to correct a fellow believer. It is extremely telling in this instance that Our Lord identifies the Church rather than Scripture as the final authority to be appealed to.””

Actual text:
“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Since Jesus chose to be with the sinners and tax collectors rather than his followers, that might be an interesting way to meet Jesus.

I recently heard a comedian talk about “How to find Jesus.” He said, “Everyone knows that Jesus is in prison because everyone is finding him there!” There is a lot of truth in that statement.

Remember: Matthew 21:31
“Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”

From John 10, Jesus did not come to judge, but to save. And, as you judge, you too will be judged. Be careful!


41 posted on 12/26/2011 6:40:29 PM PST by tired&retired
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"We believe in the Bible alone and the Bible in its entirety as the sole rule of faith for the Christian!"

One needs to be terminally stupid to embrace this mindless definition.
Makes them no better than the sandmaggots.

But I shan't worry about it until those crazy Christian sects start killing infidels.

43 posted on 12/26/2011 6:42:11 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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This article is so self-contradictory, where do I start?


52 posted on 12/26/2011 6:46:11 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - No Prisoners. No Mercy.)
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“By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.” (Psalm 33:6)

“Wherewithall shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to Thy word. With my whole heart have I sought Thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments. Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against Thee.” (Psalm 119:9-11)

“Thy word is a lamp unto my feet. and a light unto my path.” (Psalm 119:105)

“The entrance of Thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.” (Psalm 119: 130)

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:1)

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.(John 1:14)

“Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, and they are they which testify of Me.” (John 5:39)

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63)

“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” (2 Timothy 2:15)

“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17)

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)

“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth forever.” (1 Peter 1:23)


54 posted on 12/26/2011 6:46:33 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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"We believe in the Bible alone and the Bible in its entirety as the sole rule of faith for the Christian!"

I'm guessing the rest of it's no more worth reading.

60 posted on 12/26/2011 6:50:03 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit...")
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