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Cremation (vanity question)
freerepublic.com ^ | 12/26/2011 | Me.

Posted on 12/26/2011 11:52:08 AM PST by Dallas59

Question on Cremation. Does the Bible say anything about it? Is it forbidden?


TOPICS: Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: bigbucksfunerals; cremation; funerals; interment; inurnment
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To: sodpoodle
future generations will need a tourist guide to find their ancestors’ family gravesites.

If your future generations stay in one place long enough, they might need one anyway, or at least an historian. I've made a point of finding old, inactive family burying grounds. There are many. The roads no longer run past quite a few, they're out in the woods now. There are three in my direct paternal line alone, the current, active one and two others, going back to the mid-eighteenth century.

Another, known as "The Big Lot," which always struck me as sounding like it came right out of a Steven King novel, is particularly poignant. So many hardworking Christian people, dutifully buried facing east, but marked with fieldstones. War and economic disruption can take things down to that point quite easily in less than a generation and it takes generations to climb out it would appear, from looking back at those places. The living were so burdened with just feeding themselves and keeping a roof over their heads that the old plots faded from memory.

We've cleared trees, gotten state markers and easements to most of these. Others landed within the bounds of historic sites and parks. You'd think that would mean a measure of care and protection, and in most cases it does. Watch out, though, if the university anthropology departments get involved. You might end up with a skull being used as a mascot in a fraternity house.

Time passes, things change and not all is kept as it properly should be, even if descendants are right there.

181 posted on 12/26/2011 2:01:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: IYAS9YAS

Now you’re just being spiteful ;) LoL


182 posted on 12/26/2011 2:01:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: eastforker

One of the worst decisions Eastwood ever made was to put Sondra Locke in some of his movies. I wonder if he regrets it now. I certainly do.


183 posted on 12/26/2011 2:01:40 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Abby4116

I’m sorry. I misunderstood you.


184 posted on 12/26/2011 2:02:49 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tired&retired

When I was in Dublin,Ireland, this old guy (about 80) who was a night doorman at a backpacker hotel I stayed at, told me about how he refused heart surgery when he was 62 yrs old. The surgeon called in the priest to lay a guilt trip on the guy. The priest told him it was a sin to not preserve life. That he would go to hell if he did not do everything to preserve his life.

The old guy was very religious, but didn’t go to church. As he said to me,”But I do talk to God several times a day.” He turned to the priest who was trying to guilt him into surgery and replied, “You mean it was a sin for Jesus to not defend himself when they were nailing him on the cross!”

He ended up having the surgery, died, and came back to life on the operating table. He was truly an angel in disguise. You meet very few of them here on earth! The wisdom in his words was beyond this realm.


185 posted on 12/26/2011 2:04:12 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: eastforker

Bring out your dead!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGFXGwHsD_A


186 posted on 12/26/2011 2:04:50 PM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: mylife

Sorry about you and your moms loss. Growing up without a dad is horrible.

I wish it on no one....even mean people.


187 posted on 12/26/2011 2:05:11 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: verga
This comment is just to ignornat to reapons to and to ridiculous to ignore, Can you show me where i said anything of this kind?

Ignoring your own ignorant use of English...;)

You talk about denying the Bodily resurrection as being a sin. So how is getting cremated in any way denying the Bodily resurrection (and by the use of your capitalization of "Bodily", I assume you mean the resurrection of Jesus)?

Is my choice to be cremated a sign of denying the resurrection of Jesus? Does it deny the omnipotence of God - the very God that made us from dirt in the first place?

188 posted on 12/26/2011 2:05:17 PM PST by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: eastforker

Deadman has an even creepier disrespectful scene about bodies.

The point of your clip being that it is just flesh.

The scene from Deadman, trys to wrap reverence of dead flesh into the church and to spit on the Church for the notion.

I wont’ link to it.

As I have said, we should be respectful of one another.


189 posted on 12/26/2011 2:08:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
Now you’re just being spiteful ;) LoL

Well. Yeah. The rest of me? Let the ashes do some good, plant a rose in 'em, or something.

190 posted on 12/26/2011 2:08:43 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: NoGrayZone
I've told my kids that I want to be cremated and my ashes buried (no fancy urn on someone's mantle). The gravestone (just have to fill in the year of death for me) is already in place.

I'm sorry about your sister.

191 posted on 12/26/2011 2:08:46 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: verga

:)

Merry Christmas!


192 posted on 12/26/2011 2:09:38 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: tired&retired
"I’m in favor of cremation for my ex-wife! Does she have to be dead first? LOL"

Okay, sicko comment, but made me laugh out loud!!! Thanks for the humor! =)

193 posted on 12/26/2011 2:09:38 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Dallas59

My kids Dad is scattered at the Continental Divide so he will eventually be everywhere!


194 posted on 12/26/2011 2:10:27 PM PST by PROTESTBYPROXY (The Silent Majority is roaring!!)
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To: mylife

By all means, but dead is dead. A persons wishes of his disposal should be honored at all times if at all possible.


195 posted on 12/26/2011 2:10:50 PM PST by eastforker (I'll pick Rick but I still root for Newt.)
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To: NoGrayZone

I admire the fellow who stepped up to the plate and took on 3 kids, but he could never replace the original.

I gave him respect and love him just the same.


196 posted on 12/26/2011 2:11:01 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Dallas59

With the exception of circumstances like Japan, where cremation is required by law and the practice is grudgingly tolerated by the Church as a result, the canons of the Orthodox Church forbid the cremation of Christians.

The reason for the canon is that sound Christian anthropology regards the human person as a unity of body and soul, the unnatural death, occasioned by the Fall being the separation of that unity. The body is still the person as much as the soul — remember Christ said “I am the Resurrection” not “I am the transmigration of souls”. While God is quite able to raise us from the smoke and ashes of our bodies should we die in a fire or be cremated in violation of the canons, to willingly destroy the body with fire is a form of contempt for the doctrine of the Resurrection and an affront to the person. In the case of a saint, it deprives the Church of relics, through which God has often chosen to work miracles.

The Scriptures do not explicitly discuss cremation one way or the other, but the burial rites required under the Old Covenant law forbid it implicitly.


197 posted on 12/26/2011 2:11:06 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: eastforker

Honor is the key word.


198 posted on 12/26/2011 2:11:48 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: momtothree
I told my sister, at my funeral, she better throw herself upon my coffin and cry and scream “how will I live without her”.

We have a sick sense of humor, lol.

After so many family/friends burials, we were all sad and crying at first. Then, once we all got together and started “reliving” memories of that family member (just as we do at the holidays), we start to laugh. Bringing up old times and stupid things they did, we did, and all did together.

At my Aunts funeral (she was my fathers sister, who raised myself, brother and sister after his death), we and all our cousins were downstairs reminiscing and laughing our butts off.

My Uncle John (who recently passed on) came down and reprimanded us, lol.

199 posted on 12/26/2011 2:21:45 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Abby4116

Thanks (((hug))) =(.


200 posted on 12/26/2011 2:27:35 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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